DRL\'s In Canada...

[invertedaerials]

Does anyone know if ADL are standard issue in the 03 or 04 Avi's?  I have seen quite a few of them in the Toronto area.  If not...I am assuming that we change them the same way the the rest of the worlds does it.  Although, you know Canada, we always have to be different in some strange way!!!

Jeff

[invertedaerials]

TO ASK a silly question, what is ADL??

Yak, it's not a silly question at all!  I just cannot spell.  I meant DRL.  I meant to ask if the CDN models came with Amber DRL's.  I have seen a few, wondering if they were standard on 2004 for Can or U.S...?

I also understand that you will now make fun of me or make a smart --- comment.    I can only say...Bring it on!!!  All of the comments I have read from you thus far have been quite hilarious!!!  Look forward to reading this one.  I am also keen on making friends with Avi's.  I don't have mine yet, but I will be ordering it in April.  Been saving for 3 years...I cannot wait!!!

I'll be honest.  I also need some guidence on where to post certain questions.  So i hope people will be patient as I learn.

I look forward to talking with you soon, Yak.

Jeff.

[RichUF]

...I don't have mine yet, but I will be ordering it in April.  Been saving for 3 years...I cannot wait!!!...

Welcome!  I waited a long time for mine, too!  I can tell you how I got mine a year early...have a drunk driver total your current vehicle    I don't, however, recommend this method    I did get my other vehicle paid off and got my Av a year early as a result, though, so at least something good came out of it!

Rich

[invertedaerials]

Welcome!  I waited a long time for mine, too!  I can tell you how I got mine a year early...have a drunk driver total your current vehicle    I don't, however, recommend this method    I did get my other vehicle paid off and got my Av a year early as a result, though, so at least something good came out of it!

Rich

Rich,

   You are very lucky, Rich!  VERY LUCKY!  I'm 25yrs old and I have lost 5 friends in the past 5 years, because some fool decides he's "okay to drive".  3 of those five were close friends.  Drinking and driving will haunt me till the day I pass.  Someone was looking after you Rich.  Count your blessings my friend.  Man I can see their faces.  I'd do anything to get them back.

   Yet another reason i want an AV.  At least I'll stand a chance.

Sorry guys, still dealing with the loss of my friends.

JEff.

[DragonSlayer1]

invertedaerials  (Jeff), first of you got off lucky with Yak... consider it a (freeby), cause you are open game now!!!

2nd. as you stated "you know Canada, we always have to be different in some strange way!!!" you proved it by writing "ADL"... LMFAO

Now would be the best time to buy your AVY. As you will NOT see these types of promos for too much longer (in my opinion)...

And then you could start to play with the big boyz, and even Yak. (he goes both ways) if the price is right

And as Yak said "YOu'll GET USED to me!!" LMAO

Welcome to the club, (although you are still not t a true avyR. until you get yours)

P.S. Blue not amber


G.

[whitethunder]

  The Kimmey?

[7of7]

Yakky,
Did you loose your AV to your new Wifey???  
-7-

[invertedaerials]

Okay so now I have to deal with Dragon and Yak.  What did I do to deserve this?!! hehe!!  As for playing with the BIG BOYS, My grand Am wil take a lot.  Okay, no it won't, but still.  I'm an Av guy at heart, doesn't that count for something.  Although I agree with you, I'm not a true AV'er until I get mine.

What Kind of special deal is going on now?  I'm looking at an 04...they have deals on them already???  I was hoping for 1.9% fin, by Apr.  Anyone know when the best time to "Order" is?  Kinda tight on the month to month right now.

As for losing the Av to the wife, I'm not married...yet.

Oh yea...one more thing...Dargon, Yak...BRING IT ON!!! hehehehe

Jeff.

[RichUF]

I think this site could use a whole seperate section just for our Canadian friends.  Heck, Yak could use his very own section!

J/K guys (and monkeys)  

Good luck with the purchase  

[whitethunder]

  I will infer that The kimmey is the Boss!
and after seeing the photo it's not hard to understand why.

[7of7]

Yakky,
Did you loose your AV to your new Wifey???  
-7-

The ONLY answer I can give to that is :  YES   and NO    

So, she drops you off at work,....does she!!!!

I lost my 2000 suburban to mine, ... bought her a Mercedes,... got it back,...I bought my AV,...

[DragonSlayer1]

Yak, you know I don't wish... (I did say money involved)

Yes whitehinter does NOT know of Kim... you show him (but as Kim for permission first

Yak, do you rally think this guy wants "us to bring it on...LMFAO

One of us??? avyR, or "one " of us (nah)

G.

[invertedaerials]

Yak, you know I don't wish... (I did say money involved)

Yes whitehinter does NOT know of Kim... you show him (but as Kim for permission first

Yak, do you rally think this guy wants "us to bring it on...LMFAO

One of us??? avyR, or "one " of us (nah)

G.

Uh oh... Yak.  I think Dragon is worried.  Is it possible that there could be a Canadian Trio?  It's possible, Yak, Dragon, that I could be one of you.   However, I like to think of the both of you as Jedi, and I am simply in training.  I believe that both of you have already taken me under your wing.  As soon as there are three ou us, it will make us more unstopable!  We may be known as the "Inverted Yak Dragon"!!!  Fear our Wrath!!!.

As for Dragon being worried.  Don't be, my friend.  I will not rain on anyone's parade...especially someone who is as powerful and as sinical as you and Yak.  I like learning from the best.

One last thing...When I say...Bring it ON, i mean...BRING IT ON!!!

P.s. You're not one of those wuss Dragon's are you? (okay now, I'm really going to get it!!!  I'm not worried, I can take it like a Man!!!)

P.P.s  Yak, Congrats On Kimmy...You are a very Lucky Man.  I will post a pick of my doomed (she has to put up with me...poor her!!!) g/f as soon as I get permission...wait!!!  I mean as soon as I tell her I am Putting it up!!!  (oh no...this could hurt!)

Jeff.

[invertedaerials]

NOW the WHOLE WORLD can TREMBLE at our WRATH!!  
ALL HAIL THE INVERTED YAK DRAGON!!

......yessssssssssss, yesssssssssssssssssss,   ....

"BLESSED are the WEAK, for they make EASY TARGETS!!!"

Muhahahahahahahahahhahaha

Thy work shall be done.  Oh yes..."BLESSED are the WEAK, for they make EASY TARGETS!!!"  Almost sounds like a ford driver. hehehehe!!!

Yak, Dragon...Let's SLAY!!!

Jeff

[DC AV]

And this all started over ADL's Heh

[Boomer]

Thats what I was thinking...all this over ADL.  I think a few of you have ADD. lol.  HAs anybody answered the man's question?  I would also like to know the answer to his question.

[DragonSlayer1]

LOL...

DRL are standard/manditory equipment on ALL CDN. cars/trucks/bikes


Blue ones are the best, if you got the Balls,  

G.

[Boomer]

I actually thought the original post was about Amber Driving Lights (ADL).  

Thank you Dragonslayer, Do you or anyone else have any pics of Amber vs Blue?  

[DragonSlayer1]

Yeah well, it could if been about amber ...

BUT I LIKE THE BLUES! ,and when I walk I do feel things hitting my inner legs...

Pic's A can't recal if I do.

G.

[txyank1]

I'll be honest.  I also need some guidence on where to post certain questions.  So i hope people will be patient as I learn
Jeff.

Don't worry about that. There's always an overly-helpful Moderator that'll move it for you. Never to be found again.

[Yakmar]

I actually thought the original post was about Amber Driving Lights (ADL).  

Thank you Dragonslayer, Do you or anyone else have any pics of Amber vs Blue?  

...BWAHAHHAAHH!!!  YOU asking DRAGON to post pics!!!
HE ONLY has 3 DIGITAL CAMERA's, and HE CAN't USE THEM !!!!!
....Dragon, my next trip out I gonna have to give you a LESSON in photography!!!!    AND YOU KNOW how I want payment!!!  

*ehhe*  

[DragonSlayer1]

Yeap I know...
This time though no spit shine for you B***H, you will have to take it DRY

G.

[rubenoff]

What have we learned about the implementation of Daytime Running lamps on vehicles in Canada ??

For a number of years we have been using DRL on vehicles in Canada The following are comments from a retired Vehicle mechanic and provincial Vehicle inspector.

One of the better DRL systems is the DRL1 that operates the low beam in the main lighting system at aprox 60% of the low beam brilliance. ( we drive two vehicles with this DRL feature and like them very much)

What does this design of DRL offer??
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ans.
(1) No additional lamps are required on the vehicle to accomplish DRL operations

(2) The low beam is suited for the DRL because it is focused low for oncoming traffic.

(3) the glare is controlled through lower low beam brilliance

(4) The DRL1 has a DRL off, feature with the parking brake applied, especially for police cars who want to hide in the boonies,
and do not want to be seen,

The other system of having 2 additional DRL lamps operating at the front of the vehicles has less desirable features due to.
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(1) More front vehicle lamps can be required to operate DRL on the vehicle

(2) The lamps must be extinguished at night unless they are operated within the parking lamps ( at 2 candlepower nightime )

(3) if the added lamps are called DRL in the daytime
and or fog or driving lamps in the night time
there must be an auto off feature, or an illuminated on/off switch for the operator to shut off the added lamps otherwise

Oncoming drivers will be required to experience more frontal vehicle lights shining onto their eyes.when meeting vehicles at night

Historical vehicle lighting safety supplied over the years
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Most vehicles have 2 park lamps operating at 2 candlepower brilliance, along with the main head lamps to provide added front vehicle depiction of the outsides of the unit in event a headlamp burns out during vehicle operations,

This prevents the vehicle from being mistaken for a motorcycle at night, (accident prevention through lighting design)

However to ensure a minimum amount of lights are lit to effect the oncoming drivers vision there must be a design in the DRL operations that for safety

extinguishes the added lamps automatically at night time or have an

illuminated on/off switches near the operators fingers so that the additional lamps can be used to meet on site road and weather conditions and or / to respect the eyes of the oncoming drivers,

 
This is a bit of DRL history from British Columbia Canada

The DRL in canada was primarily Developed in a mans basement
in Prince George B.C.Canada, to review the company and the history please visit the link below ( we are not associated with the Company)

pacific insight

we have 2 vehicle that are fitted with the DRL1 control and like the operations

This model operates the DRL in the low beam of the headlamps system
at aprox 60% of the low beam brillance

and is extinguished with the application of the parking brake, Police like this feature so they can hide and have the engine running when the weather is cooler

and th DRL1 does not require any added lamps to make the DRL operate


Many other models of DRL are available from auto suppliers

BJ


 
 

[Yakmar]

What have we learned about the implementation of Daytime Running lamps on vehicles in Canada ??

For a number of years we have been using DRL on vehicles in Canada The following are comments from a retired Vehicle mechanic and provincial Vehicle inspector.

One of the better DRL systems is the DRL1 that operates the low beam in the main lighting system at aprox 60% of the low beam brilliance. ( we drive two vehicles with this DRL feature and like them very much)

What does this design of DRL offer??
-------------------------------------------------------
ans.
(1) No additional lamps are required on the vehicle to accomplish DRL operations

(2) The low beam is suited for the DRL because it is focused low for oncoming traffic.

(3) the glare is controlled through lower low beam brilliance

(4) The DRL1 has a DRL off, feature with the parking brake applied, especially for police cars who want to hide in the boonies,
and do not want to be seen,

The other system of having 2 additional DRL lamps operating at the front of the vehicles has less desirable features due to.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(1) More front vehicle lamps can be required to operate DRL on the vehicle

(2) The lamps must be extinguished at night unless they are operated within the parking lamps ( at 2 candlepower nightime )

(3) if the added lamps are called DRL in the daytime
and or fog or driving lamps in the night time
there must be an auto off feature, or an illuminated on/off switch for the operator to shut off the added lamps otherwise

Oncoming drivers will be required to experience more frontal vehicle lights shining onto their eyes.when meeting vehicles at night

Historical vehicle lighting safety supplied over the years
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Most vehicles have 2 park lamps operating at 2 candlepower brilliance, along with the main head lamps to provide added front vehicle depiction of the outsides of the unit in event a headlamp burns out during vehicle operations,

This prevents the vehicle from being mistaken for a motorcycle at night, (accident prevention through lighting design)

However to ensure a minimum amount of lights are lit to effect the oncoming drivers vision there must be a design in the DRL operations that for safety

extinguishes the added lamps automatically at night time or have an

illuminated on/off switches near the operators fingers so that the additional lamps can be used to meet on site road and weather conditions and or / to respect the eyes of the oncoming drivers,

 
This is a bit of DRL history from British Columbia Canada

The DRL in canada was primarily Developed in a mans basement
in Prince George B.C.Canada, to review the company and the history please visit the link below ( we are not associated with the Company)

pacific insight

we have 2 vehicle that are fitted with the DRL1 control and like the operations

This model operates the DRL in the low beam of the headlamps system
at aprox 60% of the low beam brillance

and is extinguished with the application of the parking brake, Police like this feature so they can hide and have the engine running when the weather is cooler

and th DRL1 does not require any added lamps to make the DRL operate


Many other models of DRL are available from auto suppliers

BJ


 
 

NOW THATS a mouthfull for a FIRST POST!! 

WELCOME to the Club!! 

[rubenoff]

   Just to keep a perspective on the topic and a seperation from Fog and Driving lamps  Below are questions and answers with application of British Columbia Motor Vehicle act Regulation

(1)  May we use fog lamps on high beam lamp operations ??
 
ans. No  only auxiliary driving lamps are allowed on high beam operations  M.V Reg 409.3
 
and for proper control of auxillary driving lamps on high beam an illuminated on/off control switch with additional relay and proper fusing is recommended  to ensure the main light circuit is not overloaded   
 
(2) May we use fog lamps instead of low beam lamps ??
 
ans.   Yes  providing the unit has the fog lamps wired up so that the tail lamps, marker lamps and park lamps are operating
M.V regs 411.3
This is normally done with an extra relay and fuse so that the fog lamps operate on the first park lamp position of the main switch.
 
(3)  May we operate the fog lamps along with low beam lamp operations??
ans . Yes  providing the fog lamps can be switched off  when the weather is CLEAR
M.V Regs 411.4
 
This is normally accomplished with the installation of a relay and illuminated on/off switch
c/w proper fusing  and a feature that prevents the fog lamps from operating on high beam
 
(4) how do we ensure that our vehicle is fitted to meet the B.C Motor vehicle act regulations
for auxiliary driving lamps and fog lamps.??
 
ans. Have the unit inspected at an approved I.C.B.C inspection facility  that has  a copy of an approved electrical wiring and switching drawing is available from ------