Chevy Avalanche VS Nissan Titan?

[XhaustedZ71]

A Friend of Mine Just picked up a V-8 Nissan Titan.  He set up the challenge to me and claims that he can take out my 03 Av   I have Exhaust and a Power Programmer
Think I can take him???

[enkeiavalanche]

I don't know.. It's been talked about before... Do you have one of those Magic 8 Balls? see what that says...

[Desert Rat]

due to the TM and HP ratings of the 2, and having driven one....... I would not bet my pink slip...

[SEMPER-FI]

You'll beat him in ride comfort, looks and versatility.  

[XhaustedZ71]

I beat all sorts of Fords with it   All Except the Lightning obviously    Motor Trend puts the 1/4 mile time of the Titan at 16.0  My Av was 16.3 Stock.  I hope my Mods Will pull me past him.  however  Torque Mangement Will spoil the fun If I cant get the jump off the line!

[DougD]

You'll beat him in ride comfort, looks and versatility.  

Precisely.

Sorry, but I don't buy a truck like this to be fastest from stoplight to stoplight

For that, I'd buy an SRT-10 if I had to have the fastest truck around.  For stoplight-stoplight or on-track performance, I'll choose the appropriate vehicle for that.

[SRFNSNO]

Remove every thing from your truck,spair,bed covers,bed pad,clading (if you got it)

And the driver does make a diffrance.

GO FOR IT. but dont forget to post WIN or lose.

[SEMPER-FI]

I beat all sorts of Fords with it   All Except the Lightning obviously    Motor Trend puts the 1/4 mile time of the Titan at 16.0  My Av was 16.3 Stock.  I hope my Mods Will pull me past him.  however  Torque Mangement Will spoil the fun If I cant get the jump off the line!

I think the titan time is around 14's or 15's in the 1/4. Maybe high 13's. I can't remember exactly, but I know its alot better than 16.
Oh, yea, if you want to beat the lightning and everything else, get the Dodge Ram SRT-10.

[enkeiavalanche]

Let the New York and Jersey Crew know when the race is Maybe we'll all come down and line the streets...

[SRFNSNO]

How Bout The Lamborghini NO NOT THE CAR.
The SUV  LM002


http://formen.ign.com/news/9829.html?fromint=1
The 1st real luxury SUV

[enkeiavalanche]

I know someone with a red one.. One sweet ride...

[SRFNSNO]

Wait maybe we dot this all wrong.
back them up to each other strap them together.
AND LET IT RIP.

Ya Glen and they came with a set of killer Pirelli's
Kevlar Sick $1,100 ea  (would be cool on a AV bullet proof at 100mph off road)

[sperry]

It has some impressive specs for a pickup But I still prefer my av...

Titan

[Z66 BUTCH]

I have been thinking about a set of their 18" wheels for my Avalanche. What do you think?

Butch

[DS]

The Titan's build quality and fit and finish are great too, and that's a nice engine.

[OviedoAv]

Well, if the Titan is built like my wifes Armada, I think you would loose. FOr such a heavy vehicle,hers hauls butt, and is very comfortable. I absolutely love driving her Armada, that engine is awesome.

[XhaustedZ71]

My Friend is waiting til he hits 500 miles on his Titan before the race goes down  and its likely to be at Francies Lewis Blvd here in Queens,  Its the longest stretch of road with no chance of a car coming out and creaming us both! Plus Plenty of room to Stop!!  I have 20" rims on the truck now, Im wondering If I would be faster if I put my Stock tires on, Considering there would be less rolling resistance. Plus I never leave the 20's on the truck for the winter, So Its about that time to change them!  

[enkeiavalanche]

Change them out and let us know when..  We'll all meet you at the race...

[SEMPER-FI]

My Friend is waiting til he hits 500 miles on his Titan before the race goes down  and its likely to be at Francies Lewis Blvd here in Queens,  Its the longest stretch of road with no chance of a car coming out and creaming us both! Plus Plenty of room to Stop!!  I have 20" rims on the truck now, Im wondering If I would be faster if I put my Stock tires on, Considering there would be less rolling resistance. Plus I never leave the 20's on the truck for the winter, So Its about that time to change them!  

Leave them on, you might not win, at least you'll be looking good.  
Yes, you will have a better chance with the stock tires.

[Desert Rat]

well guess what, while the AV is in the shop getting the t-case fixed... my rental is a crew cab Titan 4x4.....

All I can say is WOW.....

I really wish that my AV had the pull this thing does... from a stop it will force you back in the seat all the way to 60..... I am sure my AV would feel the same if I dropped an extra 5 grand on a super charger... 

I love my AV, but it is nice to see what the other trucks out there are like....

AV beats the titan in functionality with the midgate.... but I think the titan takes over the lead from there...

That being said.... I can't wait to get my AV back from the dealer today 

[BoatMark]

My neighbor has a new Titan, nice truck. Not for me though. It always looks 7/8 scale next to my Av. And I think we have a more comfortable interior. I guess I don't really care who wins the 0-60 arrgument, since they are so close its mostly the nut behind the wheel.

My neighbor bought his touting superior jap quality. His Nissan is six months old, has less than 4k miles on it, and has been back for warranty service five times. My Av is one year old, turned 35k last night, and just went in for its first warranty work. And that was the tailgate cable recall, and a mirror. Just Dunno..........

[Desert Rat]

My neighbor has a new Titan, nice truck. Not for me though. It always looks 7/8 scale next to my Av. And I think we have a more comfortable interior. I guess I don't really care who wins the 0-60 arrgument, since they are so close its mostly the nut behind the wheel.

My neighbor bought his touting superior jap quality. His Nissan is six months old, has less than 4k miles on it, and has been back for warranty service five times. My Av is one year old, turned 35k last night, and just went in for its first warranty work. And that was the tailgate cable recall, and a mirror. Just Dunno..........

that is not jap vs american quality.... both are american made and no matter what brand, you will have good ones and bad ones.... you got well built AV and thats where it ends...

My AV has been in many many many times (I am friends with 2 service advisors, 1 service manager, and 2 shop formans at the local dealer.... I never met them before buying my AV)

[PUNISHER]

Sorry, but I don't buy a truck like this to be fastest from stoplight to stoplight

For that, I'd buy an SRT-10 if I had to have the fastest truck around.  For stoplight-stoplight or on-track performance, I'll choose the appropriate vehicle for that.

   i have to agree with you on this one DougD.  now if i had that SRT-10 i would not even entertain the thought of wasting my gas on such a challenge.

[Uesque]

Nissan did their homework on this one.  You drive a V8 Tundra, and it feels like you're driving a Toyota, nice, but bland and uninspiring.  Drive a Titan, and you know you're driving a rumbling, push you in the seat V8.

[rxzruby]

this is what my decision came down to, titan or an av.
if i had to have or needed a 'full' truck i would have gotten a titan, it blew away everything else. the only problem i had with the titan was the very loud exhaust volume.

Rxzruby
 

[Desert Rat]

this is what my decision came down to, titan or an av.
if i had to have or needed a 'full' truck i would have gotten a titan, it blew away everything else. the only problem i had with the titan was the very loud exhaust volume.

Rxzruby
 

to some it is noise... to others it is music... 

Grey

[onsse]

Hey all,

I too, test drove the Titan, before getting my AV. And I'm really impressed with the numbers and truck feel of the Titan.

But I chose the AV for comfort and ride. Not to mention the heavy duty cargo cover that can withstand 200lbs... etc.. etc... If I wanted a truck for hauling stuff, I'll get a used one. I'm not going to spend 30k on a truck to haul stuff from Home Depot.....

[TXsilverado]

stock vs. stock....a titan will KILL an avalanche in a race. you still have the better truck though

[Kurt-1200rs]

agreed...now put a turbo on and we are talkin ,,take it to the track

[PUNISHER]

Hey all,

I too, test drove the Titan, before getting my AV. And I'm really impressed with the numbers and truck feel of the Titan.

But I chose the AV for comfort and ride. Not to mention the heavy duty cargo cover that can withstand 200lbs... etc.. etc... If I wanted a truck for hauling stuff, I'll get a used one. I'm not going to spend 30k on a truck to haul stuff from Home Depot.....

   that makes sense.  i have the AV for comfortable long hauls, going out, and hauling some things.  for those things that are dirty, big and bulky, etc., i have my '77 F100 for that.

[PUNISHER]

to some it is noise... to others it is music... 

Grey

   that would have been music to my ears.

[Darkhorse]

Yes, you can take a Nissan Titan, beat a nice shiny black one Sunday from a light at a deserted intersection. The owner was just as surprised as I was, although if he had aftermarket, intake, exhaust and power programming too he may have won.

[Trophyman]

that is not jap vs american quality.... both are american made and no matter what brand, you will have good ones and bad ones.... you got well built AV and thats where it ends...

Not wanting to piss off Bulldog at all..... but..... (there's always a but)
I don't give a flyin' flip what anyone says about the japanese crap being American made.  The big check still goes to japan.  And they have a 90-10 trade deficit annually with America.   They are laughing at us. 
Buy American.  Support America. 

Thank you for the air time.
Trophyman.

[OviedoAv]

this is what my decision came down to, titan or an av.
if i had to have or needed a 'full' truck i would have gotten a titan, it blew away everything else. the only problem i had with the titan was the very loud exhaust volume.

Rxzruby
 

You should have picked the Titan

[snaggembythetail]

The Titan is much quicker than the Av due to the weight savings.  The Titan is not considered a SUV like the Av is and it has an awesome powertrain.  If you wanted speed, you shouldn't have purchased an Av.  I bought mine for looks and comfort. 

I can't recall that I saw too many tricked out Suburban's when I was growing up so what's the difference between an Av and a Burban?  The last row of seats.........and maybe 100lbs.

[pdxkevin]

A Friend of Mine Just picked up a V-8 Nissan Titan.  He set up the challenge to me and claims that he can take out my 03 Av   I have Exhaust and a Power Programmer
Think I can take him???

How deep is the mud going to be?  How big are the rocks and logs on the trail?

[Orion_Paxx]

How deep is the mud going to be?  How big are the rocks and logs on the trail?

Dont forget the wench

[XhaustedZ71]

Well I guess its Been Long Enough Without a Result!!!    We Found a Long Stretch of Road, 3 Lanes Wide and about 1/2 mile long, We lined Up with one of My friends in the Middle acting as the Tree, When he Said go, I Jumped Off the Line and Got a 1/2 Fender ahead of him for about a Whole 3 Seconds, I thought I had a chance!!, Those 3 seconds came and Went as the Titan went ahead and Showed me His Taillights at about  3 1/2 Truck lengths by the time we Reached the 100mph mark.  HOWEVER!, He May be Faster But its Hard to Setup a Rematch considering that His Truck is Spending more Time at the Dealer then in His Driveway!

[BUDMAN]

FWIW, many a AV spent time their first year in the shop for warranty work, including mine.  The bottom line, comparing Titan to AV, mod for mod, the Titan will take you every time.  Their lighter and got more ponies under the hood.  That's just reality.

I never looked for the AV to be a racer.  That's not the reason I bought it.  Comfort and ride quality were my determining factor, and I think I made the right choice.

[Darkhorse]

Yes, you can take a Nissan Titan, beat a nice shiny black one Sunday from a light at a deserted intersection. The owner was just as surprised as I was, although if he had aftermarket, intake, exhaust and power programming too he may have won.

i beat him pretty bad too, backed off at 55 and he stayed behind me. well, lo and behold, guess what i kept seeing, the titan parked in front of the police station, had a buddy who has friends in the p.d. ask around, it's the chief's new truck. i'll be hiding in guatemala for a few years.

[AVY14]

comfort it the main thing with the av... i have lowered my av 3/4.5 and my friend still says that it is still more comfortable than a stock f@rd... i havent driven a ford but that is a big compliment... i thought that my truck is already stiff (the way i like it) but i guess its still comfortable for the ride.

[AViator]

A stock Nissan Titan runs about 16.3 @ 86 which is what my 2500 Avalanche runs.  I have yet to line up with one.   Next time I get a chance to....

[Chief]

Nissan Titan published quarter-mile time is 15.4 seconds.

http://www.roadfly.com/magazine/17/nissan_titan.1.html

Motor Trend reports 0 to 60 in just 7.1 seconds.  Those numbers would eat my Grand Prix alive, let alone an Avalanche.  Your boned...

[Darkhorse]

Nissan Titan published quarter-mile time is 15.4 seconds.

http://www.roadfly.com/magazine/17/nissan_titan.1.html

Motor Trend reports 0 to 60 in just 7.1 seconds.  Those numbers would eat my Grand Prix alive, let alone an Avalanche.  Your boned...

oooh, a bunch of magazine numbers generated by a professional driver in a factory supplied vehicle, very impressive! Beats the heck out of my Avalanches magazine test numbers.
In the real world, at a traffic light, the one who has his engine backed up against the convertor to near wheelspin will have a serious serious advantage over the guy who just punches it when the light changes
even if the first vehicle is stock, which mine isn't.
Don't let numbers scare you off if something that "will beat you" wants to play at a traffic light, remember though, safety first, make sure there is no traffic around  you and, win or lose, back off at an appropriate time.

[OviedoAv]

Well, I have a  souped up 2500, and we own an Armada. From driving both, I am quite confident the Armada will smoke my AV....Now, only if I could get the wife to go out and drag race with me

[docopharm]

oooh, a bunch of magazine numbers generated by a professional driver in a factory supplied vehicle, very impressive! Beats the heck out of my Avalanches magazine test numbers.
In the real world, at a traffic light, the one who has his engine backed up against the convertor to near wheelspin will have a serious serious advantage over the guy who just punches it when the light changes
even if the first vehicle is stock, which mine isn't.
Don't let numbers scare you off if something that "will beat you" wants to play at a traffic light, remember though, safety first, make sure there is no traffic around  you and, win or lose, back off at an appropriate time.

Sorry man, in any world the Titan will own an AV in the quarter. Most guys are running low 15's stock, with an exhaust, intake and few tweaks, we're in the 14's. Supercharger just came out too that puts out close 500hp at the flywheel. That should be good for putting the Titan in the low 14's possibly high 13's. 

Oh, and there is no need to brake torque ours...just punch and go.

[docopharm]

btw...I'm not bashing the AV at all. It was one of the best vehicles I've owned. It's just not in the same class as the Titan as far as this goes. 

[OviedoAv]

Unfortuntly, I agree with doc

[Darkhorse]

Unfortuntly, I agree with doc

Agree away, you're most likely right, just sayin' sometimes the better driver wins, happens to everyone once in a while. Doesn't matter how bad your vehicle might be, no car can drive itself.
No Nissan-bashing intended either. 

[OviedoAv]

  Your just faster cause you have hand controls!

[Chief]

Agree away, you're most likely right, just sayin' sometimes the better driver wins, happens to everyone once in a while. Doesn't matter how bad your vehicle might be, no car can drive itself.
No Nissan-bashing intended either.

I won't argue drivinga ability, did Autocross in the SCCA for three years and that is a lot around driving ability.  But with a roughly one second 0 to 60 advantage off the line the Titan driver is going to have to make a pretty big mistake.  The Nissan guys really did their homework (unlike the Honda guys who have built a joke of a 1/2 ton unibody pickem' up truck)

[Darkhorse]

Your just faster cause you have hand controls!

  how right you are, my friend

[Darkhorse]

I won't argue driving ability, did Autocross in the SCCA for three years and that is a lot around driving ability.  But with a roughly one second 0 to 60 advantage off the line the Titan driver is going to have to make a pretty big mistake.  The Nissan guys really did their homework (unlike the Honda guys who have built a joke of a 1/2 ton unibody pickem' up truck)

due to where i grew up my "legal" racing experience is limited to 1/4 mile drags, motocross, snow cross and sand drags. I completely agree that in most racing venues a second doesn't mean a whole lot, and a superior vehicle/driver should be able to win anyway.  When the contest is only a city block long, there isn't any time to recover from even a small boo-boo.

i'll further bore you with a couple of examples:

in '95, i was sitting at a light on New Seward HWY in downtown Anchorage, a Toyota MR2 turned out of a side street and pulled up beside me, (wont say what i was driving so as not to enrage anyone hint: its a brand that uses a lot of colored tape to give the illusion of  mo-power.) The guy in the MR2 began to rev his engine and looking over at me grinning-the Toy was obviously not stock. I knew i had no chance but figured i'd get him to put on a show.
Unfortunately, the light changed while he had just redlined the car and had his foot off the gas, i could hear him behind me getting rubber in all the gears, almost caught me too but not quite. when he pulled up to the light he wouldn't even look at me and turned left when the light changed. i won with inferior equipment.

Works the other way too, a couple months ago i was in my car (again nameless) at a light in front of the daytona speedway, there was an early 90s beater thunderbird next to me,
the way he came roaring up, i decided he needed a lesson, but given the difference in our cars i didnt really try too hard, when we got green, he roared out ahead of me, i floored it and started catching up with him , suddenly he cut in front of me, slammed on his brakes and turned into the pep boys 300 feet past the intersection. he won with inferior equipment.

In a sanctioned 1/4 mile race, i completely agree my AVY would be toast against a Titan (or most anything)but in a couple hundred foot race, or a quick interstate bout there are just too many variables to say that the quicker truck would always win.

[docopharm]

due to where i grew up my "legal" racing experience is limited to 1/4 mile drags, motocross, snow cross and sand drags. I completely agree that in most racing venues a second doesn't mean a whole lot, and a superior vehicle/driver should be able to win anyway.  When the contest is only a city block long, there isn't any time to recover from even a small boo-boo.

Completely off topic....sweet wheels Daytona! I came VERY close to getting the same ones. You got a side shot of how they look?

[BigBlackAv]

Precisely.

Sorry, but I don't buy a truck like this to be fastest from stoplight to stoplight

For that, I'd buy an SRT-10 if I had to have the fastest truck around. For stoplight-stoplight or on-track performance, I'll choose the appropriate vehicle for that.

you can have both...in an Avalanche

[Darkhorse]

Completely off topic....sweet wheels Daytona! I came VERY close to getting the same ones. You got a side shot of how they look?

Thanks, i like the five spoke/6 lug design and the dark accents match what little cladding i have.
Those on your truck would look good on mine too. American Racing, aren't they?

[msdinsp]

didn't buy mine for speed, hook up 10,000 lbs, and see who gets up the hill first

[docopharm]

Thanks, i like the five spoke/6 lug design and the dark accents match what little cladding i have.
Those on your truck would look good on mine too. American Racing, aren't they?

yeah, they look really sharp! Almost wish I had gone with those now, lol. Yeah mine are AR Prisms...took me almost 6 months of looking b4 I decided on what I wanted.

didn't buy mine for speed, hook up 10,000 lbs, and see who gets up the hill first

Well yeah...you've got a 2500, lol. 9500lbs tow rating on mine....I bought this one for both speed and towing. . Wife won't let me have the Vette, so I have to make the most out of the truck!

[Darkhorse]

yeah, they look really sharp! Almost wish I had gone with those now, lol. Yeah mine are AR Prisms...took me almost 6 months of looking b4 I decided on what I wanted.

I searched a month or so, then had two flats at once, when i went to the tire store, there they were.

Well yeah...you've got a 2500, lol. 9500lbs tow rating on mine....I bought this one for both speed and towing. . Wife won't let me have the Vette, so I have to make the most out of the truck!

Smart wife! Neither of my Vettes have lived up to their reputation (95ZR1, 79L82 w/375hp LT1) ended up being garage dwellers.

[docopharm]

Neither of my Vettes have lived up to their reputation (95ZR1, 79L82 w/375hp LT1) ended up being garage dwellers.

Yeah, I know you're probably right, and it makes no economic sense for me to do it, but a new Z06 just makes my mouth water! 

[BigBlackAv]

I saw one yesterday at Camarofest...it is a great looking car...very nice!

[Darkhorse]

I saw one yesterday at Camarofest...it is a great looking car...very nice!

I know! that latest body style really looks good and the idea of 500+ horsepower is really tempting me to get another one. sounds like chevy really outdid themselves this time.

[docopharm]

Yeah they've even got great reviews from MotorTrend on the Z06.....and MotorTrend hates American cars, lol. Either way, that car is just badazz!! Maybe after the kids have gotten through college............. 

[Darkhorse]

Maybe after the kids have gotten through college............. 

AACK! had to remind me, the way college prices are going up i'm planning to move into that nice cardboard box i've got scoped out by the railroad tracks. it's pretty close to the blood bank too

[AVALANCHER 2]

Sorry man, in any world the Titan will own an AV in the quarter. Most guys are running low 15's stock, with an exhaust, intake and few tweaks, we're in the 14's. Supercharger just came out too that puts out close 500hp at the flywheel. That should be good for putting the Titan in the low 14's possibly high 13's. 

Oh, and there is no need to brake torque ours...just punch and go.

  Titan very nice Nissan HEMI-KILLER
NOT

NOT THIS 300C SRT8  HEMI

[docopharm]

ok, I'll qualify that by saying Hemi "truck" killer! lol 

How you liking the 300? My neighbor got one not too long ago....nice car, he likes it alot.

[Desert Rat]

300 is a nice car... before taking delivery of my Charger I rented one (V6 touring model), for 2 days (the AV was DOA for a couple days)... there were some thing about the interior of the 300 that I didnt like, and was concerned about having the same pet peves in the charger... not the case...

I think dodge made it a muscle car outside with a sport sedan inside... while the 300 has a "mini bently" outside, with a chrysler inside... (sorry... I was not impressed with the 300's dash at all.... lacking alot for the style of the outside)

FWIW, the charger 1/4 mile is in the mid 14's here in AZ, a guy in Michgan ran a 13.8 in an R/T. The 300 would be basically the same (within 1/10, same driver, launch etc etc...due to weight). So comparing 1/4 mile times is not accurate when you are comparing different areas, different temps etc etc...)

In case anyone cares... the best run so far from a 300 SRT-8 I have seen is 12.9 and the Charger SRT-8 is 12.8 the cars went side by side down the track.

Doc, the Titan is a nice truck... I had one as a rental when my AV was in the shop (notice a pattern with my AV yet?), anyway... Power wise, stock for stock it will blow the freakin doors off the Avalanche, and yes you can roast the tires easily like you said... after 2 years of driving the AV though, the ride did seem REALLY stiff, but was it any stiffer then other true pickup trucks I have owned in the past? probably not..

Interior is better layout (gm has never been able to desin a decent interior IMHO), however the light gray dash in the rental seemed kinda, well for lack of a better word right now, "blah". I think that getting the dash in black would be a big improvement... the grey just makes it look to barren...

If I was getting another truck, the Titan would be high on my "look at" list, however I like big trucks... so the Dodge Mega Cab would probably be my #1 to look at...

Toyota is also going to be coming out with a true fullsize that will be built at the new San Antonio plant that should be just about finished with construction. Construction of the plant started IIRC, back in 2003.

For those who say buy american, it is a world market now... chevys are built in korea and mexico (and Flint  ) and Dodges are built in mexico and canada... Fords are built by abuelito, out in some field somewhere  , but yet you buy a honda or toyota and you buy a product that was made by AMERICAN workers.... So the "imports" are becoming very competative in america's "sweet spot market" where in the past they have never really had anything to compete with (remember the Yota T100?). Hell even Hyundai will have a large V8 RWD car before GM does again... LMAO

So the choice is to support american workers and buy imports, or support american businesses, who dont have any american workers anymore, just so you can say I bought american...

My Car is an american brand, owned and ran by the Germans, the car was assembled in Canada, the engine was built in Mexico, and the tranny came from Germany... yup, buying american sure did support american works didnt it?

wow... sorry for the rant... kinda went off in a tangent eh? 

[Desert Rat]

Sorry man, in any world the Titan will own an AV in the quarter. Most guys are running low 15's stock, with an exhaust, intake and few tweaks, we're in the 14's. Supercharger just came out too that puts out close 500hp at the flywheel. That should be good for putting the Titan in the low 14's possibly high 13's. 

Oh, and there is no need to brake torque ours...just punch and go.

Titan very nice Nissan HEMI-KILLER
NOT

NOT THIS HEMI

just wait till they break DCX's code and we can tweak the fuel maps (speed density system sucks)... then lets see what kind of RWHP our cars will produce...

Doc,

Hemi killer eh? wanna race?
 
(yeah I saw your post about meaning the ram... just having fun with you) 

[AVALANCHER 2]

300 is a nice car... before taking delivery of my Charger I rented one (V6 touring model), for 2 days (the AV was DOA for a couple days)... there were some thing about the interior of the 300 that I didnt like, and was concerned about having the same pet peves in the charger... not the case...

I think dodge made it a muscle car outside with a sport sedan inside... while the 300 has a "mini bently" outside, with a chrysler inside... (sorry... I was not impressed with the 300's dash at all.... lacking alot for the style of the outside)

FWIW, the charger 1/4 mile is in the mid 14's here in AZ, a guy in Michgan ran a 13.8 in an R/T. The 300 would be basically the same (within 1/10, same driver, launch etc etc...due to weight). So comparing 1/4 mile times is not accurate when you are comparing different areas, different temps etc etc...)

In case anyone cares... the best run so far from a 300 SRT-8 I have seen is 12.9 and the Charger SRT-8 is 12.8 the cars went side by side down the track.

Doc, the Titan is a nice truck... I had one as a rental when my AV was in the shop (notice a pattern with my AV yet?), anyway... Power wise, stock for stock it will blow the freakin doors off the Avalanche, and yes you can roast the tires easily like you said... after 2 years of driving the AV though, the ride did seem REALLY stiff, but was it any stiffer then other true pickup trucks I have owned in the past? probably not..

Interior is better layout (gm has never been able to desin a decent interior IMHO), however the light gray dash in the rental seemed kinda, well for lack of a better word right now, "blah". I think that getting the dash in black would be a big improvement... the grey just makes it look to barren...

If I was getting another truck, the Titan would be high on my "look at" list, however I like big trucks... so the Dodge Mega Cab would probably be my #1 to look at...

Toyota is also going to be coming out with a true fullsize that will be built at the new San Antonio plant that should be just about finished with construction. Construction of the plant started IIRC, back in 2003.

For those who say buy american, it is a world market now... chevys are built in korea and mexico (and Flint  ) and Dodges are built in mexico and canada... Fords are built by abuelito, out in some field somewhere  , but yet you buy a honda or toyota and you buy a product that was made by AMERICAN workers.... So the "imports" are becoming very competative in america's "sweet spot market" where in the past they have never really had anything to compete with (remember the Yota T100?). Hell even Hyundai will have a large V8 RWD car before GM does again... LMAO

So the choice is to support american workers and buy imports, or support american businesses, who dont have any american workers anymore, just so you can say I bought american...

My Car is an american brand, owned and ran by the Germans, the car was assembled in Canada, the engine was built in Mexico, and the tranny came from Germany... yup, buying american sure did support american works didnt it?

wow... sorry for the rant... kinda went off in a tangent eh? 

Yeah it's only an Chrysler 300 HEMI C
Your car is only completely based on the 300C it's just a cheaper build derivative 4 door Charger ? 

[BMAN1]

My friend & I race frequently.  A lot has to do w/ the drivers!  Titan has nearly 500 LESS Lbs and at least 10 hp more at a lower rpm.  If you haven't made any hp / performance mods - don't count on it!  Titan is a real nice truck!  It would be my 1st choice if there were no AV - fortunately, there is!  I'll stick to my AV!  By the way, I can still fit into a parking space with a canoe or lengthy lumber in my truck - he cant!

[docopharm]

Interior is better layout (gm has never been able to desin a decent interior IMHO), however the light gray dash in the rental seemed kinda, well for lack of a better word right now, "blah". I think that getting the dash in black would be a big improvement... the grey just makes it look to barren...

Yeah, I agree. I've just started on re-doing the dash. Black and chrome combo. 

Doc,

Hemi killer eh? wanna race?
 
(yeah I saw your post about meaning the ram... just having fun with you) 

Lemme save up for my Stillen SC, then we'll talk. (you're not allowed to do any mods to yours though!   )

[docopharm]

Yeah it's only an Chrysler 300 HEMI C
Your car is only completely based on the 300C it's just a cheaper build derivative 4 door Charger ? 

Yeah, yeah you made your point - you have the "big", "expensive" 300C, all those Chargers are just there for you to look down upon. 

[Desert Rat]

Yeah it's only an Chrysler 300 HEMI C
Your car is only completely based on the 300C it's just a cheaper build derivative 4 door Charger ? 

yeah I am well aware that it is based on the 300... hoever the dash in the 300 is different... and looks cheaper then the dash in the Daytona... Oh... and for cheaper... I could have gotten a 300 similar equipment for the same price as my Daytona... and seeing as how they are build side by side... mine is not built any cheaper then yours is. Again, on the outside the 300 is sweet... but the dash looks fitting for a modern day derrivitave of the K-Car

[AVALANCHER 2]

yeah I am well aware that it is based on the 300... hoever the dash in the 300 ... and looks cheaper then the dash in the Daytona... Oh... and for cheaper... I could have gotten a 300 similar equipment for the same price as my Daytona... and seeing as how they are build side by side... mine is not built any cheaper then yours is. Again, on the outside the 300 is sweet... but the dash looks fitting for a modern day derrivitave of the K-Car

... hoever the dash in the 300 is different because of the better material.  Yes I agree the DODGE dash is cheap looking  Don't hate if you wanted one so bad you should buy one not put 300C down anyway you look at it the rebirth of the HEMI started with the 300C and you still have a 4 DOOR Charger I guess that's a first 2

[AVALANCHER 2]

Yeah, yeah you made your point - you have the "big", "expensive" 300C, all those Chargers are just there for you to look down upon. 

    Stop haten on the Avalanche and the 300C you've got your Nissan.. Now go on now

[Desert Rat]

... hoever the dash in the 300 is different because of the better material.  Yes I agree the DODGE dash is cheap looking  Don't hate if you wanted one so bad you should buy one not put 300C down anyway you look at it the rebirth of the HEMI started with the 300C and you still have a 4 DOOR Charger I guess that's a first 2

glad that you like your 300... now pull your head out of your @$$.... Guessing you have not even looked at the dash of the dodge...

Whats your screen name over on lxforums.com and 300Cforums.com so I know who to avoid because they are an uninformed idiot?

[Desert Rat]

nevermind... found you

HEMIBYU

[docopharm]

Whats your screen name over on lxforums.com and 300Cforums.com so I know who to avoid because they are an uninformed idiot?

Grey, I'm guessing some kind of inferiority complex here. lol  Probably best to leave the idiots to themselves both here and there. I'm done with this one.   

[AVALANCHER 2]

Grey, I'm guessing some kind of inferiority complex here. lol  Probably best to leave the idiots to themselves both here and there. I'm done with this one.   

  I see you can dish it out BUT you can't take it! Read your own messages.  looks to me, your the one that has started in on the Avalanche or did you forget what forum your on?  inferiority complex  Not here, I'm not the one on a Nissan forum bad mouthing Nissan's

[AVALANCHER 2]

nevermind... found you

HEMIBYU

  HEMIBYU  YOU said it brother

[burritoboi5]

Damn boys....Why can't we be friends???

Lets just agree on a few things...

The titan is Nice
The Av is Nice

I prefer the Av because...
"THOUGH I DRIVE THRU THE VALLEY OF RICE, I SHALL FEAR NO IMPORT... FOR TORQUE ARTE' WITH ME..."

And I'm a bowtie kid.  I was raised on two burbans and will always love em.  But I also can respect my friends Titan, and my friends Frontier.

[cadboy1]

Nissan makes trucks

[Darkhorse]

Club member 1sickav recently bought a new bright red Titan, I'm hoping he will get it out on the track in Bithlo Feb.10th? Of course, knowing him it'll have 800 horsepower by then

[cadboy1]

Man, the next thing ya know, Honda will start making truck

[Darkhorse]

Man, the next thing ya know, Honda will start making truck

No way, that would never happen.
 

[SabreXray]

Nissan Titan published quarter-mile time is 15.4 seconds.

http://www.roadfly.com/magazine/17/nissan_titan.1.html

Motor Trend reports 0 to 60 in just 7.1 seconds.  Those numbers would eat my Grand Prix alive, let alone an Avalanche.  Your boned...

  Oh you have a GT.  My lightly moded GTP (3.25" pulley, CAI, headers, 1.90 rockers, other small stuff) is a mid 13 second car.

JP

[Darkhorse]

Saw a modded titan at the c-mas parade the other day, looked pretty nice. it had duals and sounded GOOD.

[darizumi]

Bought Naked AV's 2003 Avalanche. Shipped it back to my home in Hawaii. With the Radix magnacharger, suspension work and exhaust it leaves the Titan in the dust.  So far I've ran a 14.58 at 92 mph. Sent Naked AV the video going down the quarter mile just so he can see what his set up can do in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how to post a video on to the site?

[gpventures]

You need to host the video somewhere on the internet and then post the link to it here.

If you need help posting a link, just say so and it be come.

[amd1900mp]

Bought Naked AV's 2003 Avalanche. Shipped it back to my home in Hawaii. With the Radix magnacharger, suspension work and exhaust it leaves the Titan in the dust.  So far I've ran a 14.58 at 92 mph. Sent Naked AV the video going down the quarter mile just so he can see what his set up can do in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how to post a video on to the site?

Congratulation and WELCOME!

Av'n It,
Todd

[docopharm]

Bought Naked AV's 2003 Avalanche. Shipped it back to my home in Hawaii. With the Radix magnacharger, suspension work and exhaust it leaves the Titan in the dust.  So far I've ran a 14.58 at 92 mph. Sent Naked AV the video going down the quarter mile just so he can see what his set up can do in the quarter mile. Does anyone know how to post a video on to the site?

Nice times!  Most of us Titans are running low 15s to high 14s. One of these days, I'm gonna break down and supercharge this thing, it's just that little matter of spending the 6K to do it!  Congrats on your AV!

[RichUF]

Man, the next thing ya know, Honda will start making truck

according to their ads they alreay have 3 of them...a complete line.

more like a complete line of BS if you ask me 

[burritoboi5]

Honda doesn't make trucks, they make paper macheted pilots.  I almost cried when I saw a Honda Ridgeline commercial during the super bowl and a friend asked if that was my AV    Luckily another said no and the AV would eat the ridgeline 

[ATERNIE]

Nissan makes trucks

No not yet. I hear ford makes one and lets nissan put there badges on it.