Chevy Avalanche VS Nissan Titan?

[Chief]

Agree away, you're most likely right, just sayin' sometimes the better driver wins, happens to everyone once in a while. Doesn't matter how bad your vehicle might be, no car can drive itself.
No Nissan-bashing intended either.

I won't argue drivinga ability, did Autocross in the SCCA for three years and that is a lot around driving ability.  But with a roughly one second 0 to 60 advantage off the line the Titan driver is going to have to make a pretty big mistake.  The Nissan guys really did their homework (unlike the Honda guys who have built a joke of a 1/2 ton unibody pickem' up truck)

[Darkhorse]

Your just faster cause you have hand controls!

  how right you are, my friend

[Darkhorse]

I won't argue driving ability, did Autocross in the SCCA for three years and that is a lot around driving ability.  But with a roughly one second 0 to 60 advantage off the line the Titan driver is going to have to make a pretty big mistake.  The Nissan guys really did their homework (unlike the Honda guys who have built a joke of a 1/2 ton unibody pickem' up truck)

due to where i grew up my "legal" racing experience is limited to 1/4 mile drags, motocross, snow cross and sand drags. I completely agree that in most racing venues a second doesn't mean a whole lot, and a superior vehicle/driver should be able to win anyway.  When the contest is only a city block long, there isn't any time to recover from even a small boo-boo.

i'll further bore you with a couple of examples:

in '95, i was sitting at a light on New Seward HWY in downtown Anchorage, a Toyota MR2 turned out of a side street and pulled up beside me, (wont say what i was driving so as not to enrage anyone hint: its a brand that uses a lot of colored tape to give the illusion of  mo-power.) The guy in the MR2 began to rev his engine and looking over at me grinning-the Toy was obviously not stock. I knew i had no chance but figured i'd get him to put on a show.
Unfortunately, the light changed while he had just redlined the car and had his foot off the gas, i could hear him behind me getting rubber in all the gears, almost caught me too but not quite. when he pulled up to the light he wouldn't even look at me and turned left when the light changed. i won with inferior equipment.

Works the other way too, a couple months ago i was in my car (again nameless) at a light in front of the daytona speedway, there was an early 90s beater thunderbird next to me,
the way he came roaring up, i decided he needed a lesson, but given the difference in our cars i didnt really try too hard, when we got green, he roared out ahead of me, i floored it and started catching up with him , suddenly he cut in front of me, slammed on his brakes and turned into the pep boys 300 feet past the intersection. he won with inferior equipment.

In a sanctioned 1/4 mile race, i completely agree my AVY would be toast against a Titan (or most anything)but in a couple hundred foot race, or a quick interstate bout there are just too many variables to say that the quicker truck would always win.

[docopharm]

due to where i grew up my "legal" racing experience is limited to 1/4 mile drags, motocross, snow cross and sand drags. I completely agree that in most racing venues a second doesn't mean a whole lot, and a superior vehicle/driver should be able to win anyway.  When the contest is only a city block long, there isn't any time to recover from even a small boo-boo.

Completely off topic....sweet wheels Daytona! I came VERY close to getting the same ones. You got a side shot of how they look?

[BigBlackAv]

Precisely.

Sorry, but I don't buy a truck like this to be fastest from stoplight to stoplight

For that, I'd buy an SRT-10 if I had to have the fastest truck around. For stoplight-stoplight or on-track performance, I'll choose the appropriate vehicle for that.

you can have both...in an Avalanche

[Darkhorse]

Completely off topic....sweet wheels Daytona! I came VERY close to getting the same ones. You got a side shot of how they look?

Thanks, i like the five spoke/6 lug design and the dark accents match what little cladding i have.
Those on your truck would look good on mine too. American Racing, aren't they?

[msdinsp]

didn't buy mine for speed, hook up 10,000 lbs, and see who gets up the hill first

[docopharm]

Thanks, i like the five spoke/6 lug design and the dark accents match what little cladding i have.
Those on your truck would look good on mine too. American Racing, aren't they?

yeah, they look really sharp! Almost wish I had gone with those now, lol. Yeah mine are AR Prisms...took me almost 6 months of looking b4 I decided on what I wanted.

didn't buy mine for speed, hook up 10,000 lbs, and see who gets up the hill first

Well yeah...you've got a 2500, lol. 9500lbs tow rating on mine....I bought this one for both speed and towing. . Wife won't let me have the Vette, so I have to make the most out of the truck!

[Darkhorse]

yeah, they look really sharp! Almost wish I had gone with those now, lol. Yeah mine are AR Prisms...took me almost 6 months of looking b4 I decided on what I wanted.

I searched a month or so, then had two flats at once, when i went to the tire store, there they were.

Well yeah...you've got a 2500, lol. 9500lbs tow rating on mine....I bought this one for both speed and towing. . Wife won't let me have the Vette, so I have to make the most out of the truck!

Smart wife! Neither of my Vettes have lived up to their reputation (95ZR1, 79L82 w/375hp LT1) ended up being garage dwellers.

[docopharm]

Neither of my Vettes have lived up to their reputation (95ZR1, 79L82 w/375hp LT1) ended up being garage dwellers.

Yeah, I know you're probably right, and it makes no economic sense for me to do it, but a new Z06 just makes my mouth water! 

[BigBlackAv]

I saw one yesterday at Camarofest...it is a great looking car...very nice!

[Darkhorse]

I saw one yesterday at Camarofest...it is a great looking car...very nice!

I know! that latest body style really looks good and the idea of 500+ horsepower is really tempting me to get another one. sounds like chevy really outdid themselves this time.

[docopharm]

Yeah they've even got great reviews from MotorTrend on the Z06.....and MotorTrend hates American cars, lol. Either way, that car is just badazz!! Maybe after the kids have gotten through college............. 

[Darkhorse]

Maybe after the kids have gotten through college............. 

AACK! had to remind me, the way college prices are going up i'm planning to move into that nice cardboard box i've got scoped out by the railroad tracks. it's pretty close to the blood bank too

[AVALANCHER 2]

Sorry man, in any world the Titan will own an AV in the quarter. Most guys are running low 15's stock, with an exhaust, intake and few tweaks, we're in the 14's. Supercharger just came out too that puts out close 500hp at the flywheel. That should be good for putting the Titan in the low 14's possibly high 13's. 

Oh, and there is no need to brake torque ours...just punch and go.

  Titan very nice Nissan HEMI-KILLER
NOT

NOT THIS 300C SRT8  HEMI

[docopharm]

ok, I'll qualify that by saying Hemi "truck" killer! lol 

How you liking the 300? My neighbor got one not too long ago....nice car, he likes it alot.

[Desert Rat]

300 is a nice car... before taking delivery of my Charger I rented one (V6 touring model), for 2 days (the AV was DOA for a couple days)... there were some thing about the interior of the 300 that I didnt like, and was concerned about having the same pet peves in the charger... not the case...

I think dodge made it a muscle car outside with a sport sedan inside... while the 300 has a "mini bently" outside, with a chrysler inside... (sorry... I was not impressed with the 300's dash at all.... lacking alot for the style of the outside)

FWIW, the charger 1/4 mile is in the mid 14's here in AZ, a guy in Michgan ran a 13.8 in an R/T. The 300 would be basically the same (within 1/10, same driver, launch etc etc...due to weight). So comparing 1/4 mile times is not accurate when you are comparing different areas, different temps etc etc...)

In case anyone cares... the best run so far from a 300 SRT-8 I have seen is 12.9 and the Charger SRT-8 is 12.8 the cars went side by side down the track.

Doc, the Titan is a nice truck... I had one as a rental when my AV was in the shop (notice a pattern with my AV yet?), anyway... Power wise, stock for stock it will blow the freakin doors off the Avalanche, and yes you can roast the tires easily like you said... after 2 years of driving the AV though, the ride did seem REALLY stiff, but was it any stiffer then other true pickup trucks I have owned in the past? probably not..

Interior is better layout (gm has never been able to desin a decent interior IMHO), however the light gray dash in the rental seemed kinda, well for lack of a better word right now, "blah". I think that getting the dash in black would be a big improvement... the grey just makes it look to barren...

If I was getting another truck, the Titan would be high on my "look at" list, however I like big trucks... so the Dodge Mega Cab would probably be my #1 to look at...

Toyota is also going to be coming out with a true fullsize that will be built at the new San Antonio plant that should be just about finished with construction. Construction of the plant started IIRC, back in 2003.

For those who say buy american, it is a world market now... chevys are built in korea and mexico (and Flint  ) and Dodges are built in mexico and canada... Fords are built by abuelito, out in some field somewhere  , but yet you buy a honda or toyota and you buy a product that was made by AMERICAN workers.... So the "imports" are becoming very competative in america's "sweet spot market" where in the past they have never really had anything to compete with (remember the Yota T100?). Hell even Hyundai will have a large V8 RWD car before GM does again... LMAO

So the choice is to support american workers and buy imports, or support american businesses, who dont have any american workers anymore, just so you can say I bought american...

My Car is an american brand, owned and ran by the Germans, the car was assembled in Canada, the engine was built in Mexico, and the tranny came from Germany... yup, buying american sure did support american works didnt it?

wow... sorry for the rant... kinda went off in a tangent eh? 

[Desert Rat]

Sorry man, in any world the Titan will own an AV in the quarter. Most guys are running low 15's stock, with an exhaust, intake and few tweaks, we're in the 14's. Supercharger just came out too that puts out close 500hp at the flywheel. That should be good for putting the Titan in the low 14's possibly high 13's. 

Oh, and there is no need to brake torque ours...just punch and go.

Titan very nice Nissan HEMI-KILLER
NOT

NOT THIS HEMI

just wait till they break DCX's code and we can tweak the fuel maps (speed density system sucks)... then lets see what kind of RWHP our cars will produce...

Doc,

Hemi killer eh? wanna race?
 
(yeah I saw your post about meaning the ram... just having fun with you) 

[AVALANCHER 2]

300 is a nice car... before taking delivery of my Charger I rented one (V6 touring model), for 2 days (the AV was DOA for a couple days)... there were some thing about the interior of the 300 that I didnt like, and was concerned about having the same pet peves in the charger... not the case...

I think dodge made it a muscle car outside with a sport sedan inside... while the 300 has a "mini bently" outside, with a chrysler inside... (sorry... I was not impressed with the 300's dash at all.... lacking alot for the style of the outside)

FWIW, the charger 1/4 mile is in the mid 14's here in AZ, a guy in Michgan ran a 13.8 in an R/T. The 300 would be basically the same (within 1/10, same driver, launch etc etc...due to weight). So comparing 1/4 mile times is not accurate when you are comparing different areas, different temps etc etc...)

In case anyone cares... the best run so far from a 300 SRT-8 I have seen is 12.9 and the Charger SRT-8 is 12.8 the cars went side by side down the track.

Doc, the Titan is a nice truck... I had one as a rental when my AV was in the shop (notice a pattern with my AV yet?), anyway... Power wise, stock for stock it will blow the freakin doors off the Avalanche, and yes you can roast the tires easily like you said... after 2 years of driving the AV though, the ride did seem REALLY stiff, but was it any stiffer then other true pickup trucks I have owned in the past? probably not..

Interior is better layout (gm has never been able to desin a decent interior IMHO), however the light gray dash in the rental seemed kinda, well for lack of a better word right now, "blah". I think that getting the dash in black would be a big improvement... the grey just makes it look to barren...

If I was getting another truck, the Titan would be high on my "look at" list, however I like big trucks... so the Dodge Mega Cab would probably be my #1 to look at...

Toyota is also going to be coming out with a true fullsize that will be built at the new San Antonio plant that should be just about finished with construction. Construction of the plant started IIRC, back in 2003.

For those who say buy american, it is a world market now... chevys are built in korea and mexico (and Flint  ) and Dodges are built in mexico and canada... Fords are built by abuelito, out in some field somewhere  , but yet you buy a honda or toyota and you buy a product that was made by AMERICAN workers.... So the "imports" are becoming very competative in america's "sweet spot market" where in the past they have never really had anything to compete with (remember the Yota T100?). Hell even Hyundai will have a large V8 RWD car before GM does again... LMAO

So the choice is to support american workers and buy imports, or support american businesses, who dont have any american workers anymore, just so you can say I bought american...

My Car is an american brand, owned and ran by the Germans, the car was assembled in Canada, the engine was built in Mexico, and the tranny came from Germany... yup, buying american sure did support american works didnt it?

wow... sorry for the rant... kinda went off in a tangent eh? 

Yeah it's only an Chrysler 300 HEMI C
Your car is only completely based on the 300C it's just a cheaper build derivative 4 door Charger ? 

[BMAN1]

My friend & I race frequently.  A lot has to do w/ the drivers!  Titan has nearly 500 LESS Lbs and at least 10 hp more at a lower rpm.  If you haven't made any hp / performance mods - don't count on it!  Titan is a real nice truck!  It would be my 1st choice if there were no AV - fortunately, there is!  I'll stick to my AV!  By the way, I can still fit into a parking space with a canoe or lengthy lumber in my truck - he cant!

[docopharm]

Interior is better layout (gm has never been able to desin a decent interior IMHO), however the light gray dash in the rental seemed kinda, well for lack of a better word right now, "blah". I think that getting the dash in black would be a big improvement... the grey just makes it look to barren...

Yeah, I agree. I've just started on re-doing the dash. Black and chrome combo. 

Doc,

Hemi killer eh? wanna race?
 
(yeah I saw your post about meaning the ram... just having fun with you) 

Lemme save up for my Stillen SC, then we'll talk. (you're not allowed to do any mods to yours though!   )

[docopharm]

Yeah it's only an Chrysler 300 HEMI C
Your car is only completely based on the 300C it's just a cheaper build derivative 4 door Charger ? 

Yeah, yeah you made your point - you have the "big", "expensive" 300C, all those Chargers are just there for you to look down upon. 

[Desert Rat]

Yeah it's only an Chrysler 300 HEMI C
Your car is only completely based on the 300C it's just a cheaper build derivative 4 door Charger ? 

yeah I am well aware that it is based on the 300... hoever the dash in the 300 is different... and looks cheaper then the dash in the Daytona... Oh... and for cheaper... I could have gotten a 300 similar equipment for the same price as my Daytona... and seeing as how they are build side by side... mine is not built any cheaper then yours is. Again, on the outside the 300 is sweet... but the dash looks fitting for a modern day derrivitave of the K-Car

[AVALANCHER 2]

yeah I am well aware that it is based on the 300... hoever the dash in the 300 ... and looks cheaper then the dash in the Daytona... Oh... and for cheaper... I could have gotten a 300 similar equipment for the same price as my Daytona... and seeing as how they are build side by side... mine is not built any cheaper then yours is. Again, on the outside the 300 is sweet... but the dash looks fitting for a modern day derrivitave of the K-Car

... hoever the dash in the 300 is different because of the better material.  Yes I agree the DODGE dash is cheap looking  Don't hate if you wanted one so bad you should buy one not put 300C down anyway you look at it the rebirth of the HEMI started with the 300C and you still have a 4 DOOR Charger I guess that's a first 2

[AVALANCHER 2]

Yeah, yeah you made your point - you have the "big", "expensive" 300C, all those Chargers are just there for you to look down upon. 

    Stop haten on the Avalanche and the 300C you've got your Nissan.. Now go on now