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« Reply #50 on: 12/22/04 11:37 PM »

Fortunately, you had the savvy!
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« Reply #51 on: 12/24/04 10:33 PM »

Sperry,   I'm gonna install a Luxury TNR with Y91 amp and a single disc CD/DVD/TV Tuner unit in lower portion of the center stack.       I have a 04 2500 with XM, Onstar,  stock Bose (premium) 6 disc in-dash changer,   build date is 03/04,   will the av already have the VSS wire for the TNR already installed?       Can i get the correct harness for the Y91 amp from the dealer,   or just modify the one i have,  if so do i need a tool to unlock the pins from the connector,       or should i just cut and splice the wires?    I don't have MS Word perfect, so i can't use zip file you posted somwhere about the wiring diagram for rewiring the amp harness for the Y91 upgrade,    is there another option for downloading the rewiring info?.  I do have the Factory service manuals for 2004 SUV/SUT's,   but not 05's,        BTW i do have the PAC audio adaptor for the DVD/CD player.                               
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« Reply #52 on: 12/25/04 03:54 AM »

It's MS Word, not Word Perfect - that's a different product.
I'll try to check if open office will save that as a PDF. Possibly it will but I need to see if it will maintain the lines as formatted.

A very small shaft screwdriver will extract the pins. See the images in my post here:
http://64.91.234.154/cafcna/index.php/topic,37477.50.html

Look at reply # 5, (and others before & after..) same method.

The harness would be from an EXT, but you would have to disassemble a lot of interior parts to R&R it. The wiring changes at the amp are not that difficult, once you have the reference chart. Carry it to someone that has MS word and a printer; you need it that printout.

If you're a bit apprehensive, you're not the only one. Just read what info you can and print out the images you see (they do expand out for a clean print). and find someone that can print that doc. If I shrink it for a screen capture, it doesn't turn out well, so a PDF may work.
Microsoft may still have WordView as a free download, that may work too.

The VSS wire is easy. My first time was.
3 Head unit screws and four cluster screws (7MM head, torque them back @ 18 in pounds.) Not likely you have it already.

Unless they banjo-stringed the connections at the rear of your HU, it should not be a problem. If that adapter is a PAC GM12 accessory aux input device, you will need to change it's power connector  wire to either battery + or the BCM's RAP source. You can cut the wire at "E" of C2 and tap it if you wish for the VSS wire, since it goes nowhere else in your truck. The adapter provides the connection so it will work with the Lux vehicles or the 05's (they have it in the harness to the connector). run the other end over to the cluster A4. Tap that wire for the VSS.

If you don't have the adapter's power moved from the connection on the HU, it may be distorted during RAP (depending where it was connected). There is another connection on the HU that will work but it's best to connect it to the RAP source.

The reason is that the UC6 (6-disk HU) in the premium sound system, supplied an AMP "Turn-On" for the dumb amp. The Luxury system doesn't power up the amp with that method. It uses the Class II data bus to do that..  The PAC adapter is usually connected to that amp turn-on, so you see why it won't work. I chased my tail for a while to correct mine because of this change,

The adapter draws only 9 milliamps, so it would take a while to run a battery down, but you can connect it to a constant (fused) batt + source also.

Confused? take your time and read things over. Then revisit this reply with doc's printed out. You don't have to be a master electronics expert to do this, and you'll love the result. (Plus you'll know how to help the next guy..)

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« Reply #53 on: 12/25/04 09:18 PM »

Sperry, amp# 15188044  from 04 H2 seems to work w/o reprogram w/ INR.
You mentioned there were a few changes to harness schematics from the original posting.
Are they online somewhere.
Question on drain wire just to be sure I'm doing it right, when going from C to B you would have to change terminal right? Also sound quality is good for instrumental music although the singer seems less prominent. any sugestions? Thanks
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« Reply #54 on: 12/25/04 10:04 PM »

There are combo's from 04 H2's that will work. The problem is the mid year changes. One example is the INR head unit from late H2's that year. Apparently they are a NON-Lux unit (15108421). Do you have the 334 or 335 INR?

The amp you mentioned, I don't have a cross for.
 
Where is your midrange eq setting? Do you have it on "Spacious" profile?

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« Reply #55 on: 12/25/04 10:10 PM »

You just move it over as you said. Same circuit #, just a different assigned position.

That's the right side sub winding.+

What is the date at the bottom of your copy of the X-Ref doc?
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« Reply #56 on: 12/25/04 10:20 PM »

Thanks. I bought the HU new. INR lux version and the O44 on ebay. I used the diagrams posted by Linda early on maybe 6 months ago on GM-truck.com.

So when you move drain wire from the C connector on amp to the B you need to put on a smaller terminal. Just want to make sure I'm looking at the right thing since this wasnt mentioned.
I played w/ the midrange and had it on spacious, singer seems less prominent, other music good quality and everything seems to work
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« Reply #57 on: 12/25/04 10:31 PM »

looked it up on GM-Truck and it was in september linda posted the harness change diagram
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« Reply #58 on: 12/25/04 10:40 PM »

OK, I don't know if jimmy has my latest one ot not. Does yours show a splice on the drain jumper? 2099 & 2011 (C2-E, C1-12) of the old way to  both connecting to (C1-B7) new way.
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« Reply #59 on: 12/25/04 10:44 PM »

No it doesnt show splice says move from C to B7
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« Reply #60 on: 12/25/04 10:52 PM »

C to B7?

Hmmmm..

D/L this updated one. You need somthing to unzip it with. (7-Zip or winzip)


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« Reply #61 on: 12/25/04 10:54 PM »

I can only presume that you have MS-Word 97 or newer.. And a zip extractor..
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« Reply #62 on: 12/25/04 10:59 PM »

Yes I do!
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« Reply #63 on: 12/25/04 11:07 PM »


Cool!

For those of you who don't have it, this should display/print it, but not edit the doc:

(Microsoft) MS WordView Free Download page.

Edit: Bolded the link.
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Was there an attach
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For those of you who don't have it, this should display/print it, but not edit the doc:

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If you refer to my last post, just click on the blue text and it'll take you to Microsoft where one can download a viewer if they don't have Word. (Whether they do or not) It's free. I'll highlight & underline the link. It is a bit faint..

That's all...
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« Reply #66 on: 12/25/04 11:23 PM »

Got it! Thanks. I'm going out to garage now.  chevy
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« Reply #67 on: 12/25/04 11:25 PM »

Don't freeze! 
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« Reply #68 on: 12/25/04 11:33 PM »

Got heat. Its 22degrees in the Peoples Republic of Maryland now.
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« Reply #69 on: 12/25/04 11:41 PM »

((((Shiver))))

You're not that far from Jimmy (Linda) are you?
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« Reply #70 on: 12/25/04 11:47 PM »

BTW, you mentioned "C3" The amps with a third connector are Envoy/Trailblazer/Rendexvoux/Axtec/Bravada.. What vehicle do you have?

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« Reply #71 on: 12/26/04 08:07 AM »

 I have an O4 Yukon XL. Th 'C' I was talking about is the smaller of the two plugs that go into amp referring to the pinouts. I made the changes in the updated schematic. Looks like only change is drain wires. What is a "drain" btw.
Still sounds funny mainly voice in songs sounds muted. Think a reprogram will fix this?
So Linda is a guy?
Thanks for your late xmas nite advice.
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« Reply #72 on: 12/26/04 11:41 AM »

Yep..! I think it's (Jimmy's) GF or wife's name...

He's Gable74 here if I remember. `Has a Silverado HD 8100

OK, I didn't want to send you on a wild goose chase with those connections.
The grounds were a problem on the Sierra PU's. For some reason there was a motorboating effect it those trucks if that ground (drain) wasn't there.

OK, try to roll the balance over from center, either way, and see if there is a change in level or fidelity - other than what you would expect.

If so, there's a speaker polarity problem with one or more of your speakers. There's some phase-cancelling if so.

Then you need to look over the spk wiring, or the bozo's didn't wire a speaker correctly at the factory and you just followed the steps as usual, but now it shows up.

If that's all ok, amp programming may be necessary. But remember, it could go away! One H2 amp had done that - Jimmy's!

No one wants to spend the money of course, but don't blame the dealer! Instead, just prepare yourself for it.

Do you have the 1129839 document? If so, under platform type C/K, Sub Yukon/XL with the Denali selection.

BTW, a new amp at a (Site-Support) Dealer +10% is in the $300 area.. + Tx & shipping.

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« Reply #73 on: 12/26/04 02:00 PM »

Thanks. Don't want to sound sexist but Linda seemed way to guy like. And that thing about no teeth. anyway
I'll try those things. Could it be the sub woofer? I installed GPS antenna today, no problem. Waitng for my dvd from ebay.
Looking at VSS signal ,my radio harness small plug has a green/white wire in right pin. Does this mean no additional VSS wire is needed? BTW the amp bolted right in all 4 screws. Holes were already present for bigger amp.
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« Reply #74 on: 12/26/04 02:11 PM »

The presence of the wire in a Yukon may not be unusual, just ohm it (C2, "E") out to make sure (To cluster Connector, A4)

If you have an aux adapter however, they include all the wires there, regardless of what's at the other end. Don't let that fool you!

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