2nd Cad Nav in the Av - In & Working! PART 2

[sperry]

OK, just bring that doc # with you, at least. I'm not familiar with that part # to date, so enlighten me as to the outcome (and your config, etc) so I can note it (please). Good luck!

[Avialanche]

Sperry,

 Could you fix the link regarding the wiring harness change/Mods for the Luxury amp upgrade, there's an old link on page 24, but it doesn't work.

I went way back there... the only link I found was an e-mail!(Besides the pic's) What reply # was it?

Correction,     it's page 42 Reply 824..........Thanks for your help

[sperry]

Things totally changed it's location. I had to re-upload it and read the link location just to find out what they do with the zips now. Not even close to the previous way. I guess they moved the zip files but didn't update the links.

OK now, even though the link is redundant.

[3782steveo]

Ok Sperry, here's another one to add to your list...10333560. I finally got the theftlock cleared. The shop foreman at the Cadillac dealership that my dad works for did it, and even HE was skeptical. I gave him the document you posted last night and told him to try a couple of body's that came with Nav, and the second try cleared it. He couldn't believe it, and I was tickled to death. Thanks again for your help.

Edit: by the way, he didn't even charge me, he said he was just glad to learn something new

[sperry]

Great to hear that; it should have worked and did.

So to confirm for the record:

The part #, was from an 05 `burb...
You installed it in an 04 Silverado...
You had not changed the amp...
The platform/vehicle they ended up subbing in was?....

They often do a freebie when they accept an unknown programming job or unusual retrofits that they learn from. It's that so many are reluctant to try it.

Enjoy the new toy!

[3782steveo]

10333560 supposed to be from an 05 Suburban
Installed in 2004 Silverado SS
No amp change, didn't change anything but the head unit
I believe he said he used the Trailblazer-Envoy-Rendezvous to clear and relearn the VIN

I'm off to install the Nav antennae and check the vss wire with my ohm meter.

Thanks again, Sperry

[sperry]

Cool! Thanks!

[dsrour]

Sperry, are all TechII programmers the same or is there model specific software. A friend who has a busy corvette shop has one and I was wondering if it would work on my YukonXL

[flyingdutchman]

Sperry: Any idea what this is? It is located  behind the driver's side windshield pillar garnish molding in my 2004 Escalade ESV.

[kdag]

i have h/u 15204334 will amp p/n 15114454 from a denali work of how about 15188044,15060881 the setup is going into a 04 sierra thanks for all the help

[avarchitect]

Two things I wanted to state - one is that the 15188044 amp WILL work with the INR system - I have this amp and the INR 335 unit and they worked without any problems straight from the package - did get the dealership to program it just so I was sure I was getting the best sound - however I didn't notice any difference between programmed and not programmed - this amp is out a H2 and is the replacement amp for all of the "bad" 2003 unit amps that have been know to go bad in the H2's only - don't know the numbers but the dealership I want to was also a hummer dealer and they said that they have been replacing a lot of the older 2003 amps with the 15188044 amp in their H2's - the only difference between the other numbers and the 15188044 is that the amp actually says H2 on the label - which considering the fact it is on the bottom of the amp which is then housed in the console - I don't think anyone will ever notice!

Has anyone with this setup the INR, Factory CD Slave, Factory XM, and Factory Y91 amp installed a PAC C2A-GM24 to add a set of RCA outs for an afterfactory amp?  I just got mine installed and am running two 8" Rockford Fosgate Punch Stage 2 driven by a Sony XM-2200GTX pushing 200 watts to each and plugged up the RCA's to the Sony and found something interesting - I recieve a low constant hum from the subs - as the music is increased of course the music over powers the hum but I don't like to hear the hum if I have it turned almost off - had the same exact setup before the HU change over with PAC converter on the AV's HU and didn't get the same affect.  Now here comes the really interesting fact of this whole question - the hum goes away if I turn off the display (the radio is actually still playing just under the config menu I hit the Disp Off button) is the PAC adapter not really meant to be used with the Nav System???  Just wondering if anyone else has ran into the same problem...

[sperry]

Sperry, are all TechII programmers the same or is there model specific software. A friend who has a busy corvette shop has one and I was wondering if it would work on my YukonXL

All models update with the update package, not just `Vette's unless there's some restriction I never heard of!

 You will find your Yukon in the diagnostics menu. Connect it, turn the key onto IGN, engine off. you will see the diagnostics menu. In that menu you will see a vehicle ID screen. Select the year, then the type vehicle (LD HD Trucks, etc.) Select LD and PU or MPV or what vehicle catagory yours falls under.. MPV?
Go into Body, platform type and explore!

What are you needing to do? Or just curious?

[sperry]

avarchitect,

Thanks for the confirmation. The programming may have just overwritten the same code that was in it! Usually it can be just a slight acoustical delay setting that would take some close "ear" to detect. Other times it could be just one speaker like mine was. Since the purpose of the amp was to replace troublesome units that wouldn't program or would lose operation, audio or partial function in a specific vehicle, I wouldn't doubt they would pre-program it.

That is an interesting dilemma with the hum. Make sure there's no path to ground that shouldn't be there. As far as operational details & quirks like this, perhaps you can run this past Brett at PAC.

[sperry]

Sperry: Any idea what this is? It is located behind the driver's side windshield pillar garnish molding in my 2004 Escalade ESV.

Interesting! I looked for it & nothing shows up (interior trim and pillar tweeter exploded views). Nothing in the SIR sensor locations, OnStar mic? (But that's supposed to be a black goodie at the left of the upper console) Noise cancelling mic (but that is supposed to be the little grille at the left of the lower console...)

LoJack? Getting smaller & rounder these days?

A secret spy mic? (Rip it out!!!)

If your as curious as I am, I would see if I can locate the other end anyway..If possible.

[flyingdutchman]

No Lo-Jack that I know of. Have noise cancelling mic where it's suppose to be. When I removed molding it just fell out, wasn't tied up along pillar as where other wires that where wrapped in electrical tape. Wire went down pillar, under dash, behind cluster. Didn't feel like taking underside of dash apart as it was snowing and 24 degrees. On well

[sperry]

Certainly interesting... Looks like a mic.

I wouldn't be a fan of solving curiousity in weather like that either...

In time, hopefully the answer...

[dsrour]

Are DVD Maps interchangeable between GM brands. I have Cadillac v3.0 that won't work in my INR from GMC Yukon. Says unable to read. Thanks

[sperry]

I never tried one in my INR but it should have worked. The CD based ones I doubt would, but a 3.0 DVD!

 That's supposed to be the update!

Call Delphi!

Delphi Electronics & Safety
One Corporate Center
P.O. Box 9005
Kokomo, Indiana 46904-9005
PRESUMED Division!
Tel:   765.451.5011
Fax:  765.451.5426

GM vehicle brand should not matter. Mine was referenced from a Cadillac P/N, that was the same as others at the time.

[Avialanche]

Sperry, 
 
          I'm a little confused about the wiring diagram(Reply 824) for the amp upgrade from UC6 to Y91,   the C1 connector  B2 RSA EnaSig,  I have the RSA option......don't i need this wire?     Next:     What do i do with B3, B4, B5, B6 Low Level Rear Audio Sig wires, Also B11 Pink?    Next:    Just Connnect the two Drain wires from C1, C2 with splice?

[sperry]

Of course it's confusing! The RSA enable signal is controlled by the class II data in a class II amp system. The wires with a red X should be stubbed off (Insulate them). The concept is different in these systems.

In a class II Luxury system, the audio level from the HU is constant full level. The volume and other audio controls in the head unit do not alter the audio there. Instead, those controls are an extension of the amp internal audio processing, via the data bus.

In this case the rear audio is processed in the amp for the speakers back there. If there is an operation request in the RSA, the amp is told to mute the speakers by data. So, it doesn't have to route through the RSA to return to the amp for normal (no RSA demand) operation. The RSA get's it's input from the radio's rear audio low level fixed output exclusively. That's how separate programming is available.

Since the premium system did route it through the RSA, you have the wires left over.

Somewhere back many posts ago, should be some schematics.... I hate when I have to tap my feeble memory.

[Avialanche]

Ok,  HU works,  but no audio except for humming from the sub and popping sound every 15 seconds or so.

     

[sperry]

Check the RSA audio.

[sperry]

Here's the Class II Luxury amp wiring for the RSA:

[sperry]

And the previous "Premium" amp with RSA wiring:

[Avialanche]

Sperry,


          Thanks for posting the schematics,  but i'm kinda slow when it comes to electronic systems,    if you could post a RSA connector rewire diagram like the other one that you made for the Y91 upgrade,    also i do not have a Class 2 data wire for the amp,   whats the best place to splice into?     anything else i need to know?   cause i thought that amp connector was the only thing that i had to change around.                     Your help is much appreciated.