Explanation of a Dealers Invoice

[luxy60]

profit does make the capitalist world go round. i'm not begrudging a dealer his/ her profit. there's a significant margin built in to msrp and many pay it but for those that negotiate that net bottom line is the objective and i'm not referring to net cost....as you state a dealership will seldom if ever that take deal, unless there is a real need like a quota threshold.

[saxpsi88]

VIN: 3GNFK123X7G131810

zip 72202

[Avalanche Fox]

VIN: 3GNFK123X7G131810

zip 72202

what specifically did u want me to look up for ya?

[saxpsi88]

rebate and invoice info....

[Avalanche Fox]

sure, np

invoice is 39012.28

reg cash incentive is 2000 and the red tag bonus cash is 250...

if u only do the 250 rebate and take the rate...
36 mos - 3.9%
48 mos -  4.9%
60 mos - 5.9%
72 mos - 6.9%


keep in mind these are always subject to change (increase or decrease)... hope that helps

[MadLvn]

GMS:     39683.65
SUPPLR:  41466.04
Invoice:   41839.40
MSRP:    45515.00

GM NORTH CENTRAL REGION 2007 RETAIL CONSUMER CASH/APR/DEALER CASH INCENTIVES $1,000

CHEVROLET & GMC BONUS CASH PROGRAM $1,000

the only way u'd get more than 2k is w/ gm card bonus $, military $, freshly graduated $, or some sort of cert gm would have sent out.

Hello,

I'd truly appreciate the same info as above for an 07 Hummer. I know this is not a Hummer forum, but you guys are very knowledgeable and eager to help people which is greatly appreciated.

Vehicle info is:
2007 Hummer H3
Engine: 3.7L 5 cyl     
Location: City Cadillac HUMMER   
Model Code: RN15306   
Stock Number: 29607   
VIN: 5GTDN13E678162333
ZIP CODE:11101

[RaleighBermudaBlu]

Very good explanation Holly.  

If I might make a suggestion, you might want to add an explanation of something else to the first page of this post that tends to confuse a lot of people:

MSRP and the real "Invoice price" and how "National Advertising", "Regional Advertising" and "Holdback" come into play and all factor into the equation.

Also, a lot of people don't understand how supplier and gms pricing benefits the dealer and how the manufacturer brings it back to invoice price.

Tom

[Avalanche Fox]

Very good explanation Holly.  

If I might make a suggestion, you might want to add an explanation of something else to the first page of this post that tends to confuse a lot of people:

MSRP and the real "Invoice price" and how "National Advertising", "Regional Advertising" and "Holdback" come into play and all factor into the equation.

Also, a lot of people don't understand how supplier and gms pricing benefits the dealer and how the manufacturer brings it back to invoice price.

Tom

the problem is, they vary so much depending on the region and how those dealerships participate in the programs.  wouldn't be appropriate to put something up that wouldn't be concrete regardless of the area.  generally when discussing purchasing a vehicle at, say, $500 over invoice... the number i circled would be the number they would go off of.  things like dealers participating in advertising, etc. is something they have to agree to... thus it IS their cost.  they generally enter into a contract to pay that amount/percentage on each of their vehicles.

i do absolutely appretiate your input.  for different regions, when folks have specific questions, i would be happy to address them as they come up.  glad u agree this was something helpful to folks when buying a vehicle ....   

[Avalanche Fox]

Hello,

I'd truly appreciate the same info as above for an 07 Hummer. I know this is not a Hummer forum, but you guys are very knowledgeable and eager to help people which is greatly appreciated.

Vehicle info is:
2007 Hummer H3
Engine: 3.7L 5 cyl     
Location: City Cadillac HUMMER   
Model Code: RN15306   
Stock Number: 29607   
VIN: 5GTDN13E678162333
ZIP CODE:11101

hope this helps... if so... if u owe us a pic of your ride once u get it....

[stevencook8]

Hello,  I am looking at Leasing, I live in the 03038 Zip Code
           The VIN is 3GN FK12 38 7G245630 (supplr $44071.77)
           I have a supplier certificate and would like figures on a
           39 month lease , W/15 k miles, dealer says all incentives
           available to them have gone toward providing a 60% residual
           bring payment to $660 per month, is this accurate?
           Are there any other incentives that may apply?

                                       Thank you

[Avalanche Fox]

Hello,  I am looking at Leasing, I live in the 03038 Zip Code
           The VIN is 3GN FK12 38 7G245630 (supplr $44071.77)
           I have a supplier certificate and would like figures on a
           39 month lease , W/15 k miles, dealer says all incentives
           available to them have gone toward providing a 60% residual
           bring payment to $660 per month, is this accurate?
           Are there any other incentives that may apply?

                                       Thank you

if it's a gm lease, that sounds about right....  we haven't done a lease ina couple of years... we haven't seen it be helpful for a customer in a LOOONNGGG time.  very few people lease anymore cause they just haven't been as competitive as some of the purchasing programs out there.  to each his own though... different individuals have different needs when buying a vehicle.  good luck w/ your purchase

[MadLvn]

hope this helps... if so... if u owe us a pic of your ride once u get it....

Thank you very much for the info!! I have one more question however. Does bonus cash apply only when you buy the vehicle (finance the entire amount) or is it also valid on a lease as well? The reason I ask is because in the image you attached there is a "BND" incentive which just says Bonus Cash program, meanwhile the "BCH" incentive says Purchase Bonus cash incentive. Do they both apply to a lease? Also, thanks to a kind member of this forum, I have a GMID cert which will get me supplier pricing and there is an additional incentive called Supplier Bonus Cash which is an additional $250 off. Am I entitled to all three if I lease the car? I priced it out on the GMSupplier website and below the supplier price it states current offers - $2,000 (which is the sum of the above incentives), however, I don't know if I should expect this on a lease as well. Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks again! This forum has been truly helpful! I will post pics ASAP!!

[Steelheadchaser]

Great post, AvFox! 

[Avalanche Fox]

Great post, AvFox! 

coming from u... i consider that a huge compliment.  thanx 

[Steelheadchaser]

Maybe  for your next topic, you could explain "flooring"? I have a hunch that most folks don't know how it works, or even what it is. 

[AVid]

Flooring......What happens when you see the sticker price for the first time. Used to be called sticker shock! 

Am I close?

AVid

[Avalanche Fox]

Maybe  for your next topic, you could explain "flooring"? I have a hunch that most folks don't know how it works, or even what it is. 

u get the CenCal folks to quite being so mean to me and i'll post up all kinds of good stuff... 

[Avalanche Fox]

Flooring......What happens when you see the sticker price for the first time. Used to be called sticker shock!

Am I close?

AVid

it still is called sticker shock     although... honestly, i don't sticker shock is as bad anymore as "trade in value" shock is   

[Tango Chaser]

u get the CenCal folks to quite being so mean to me and i'll post up all kinds of good stuff... 

I havn't been mean!  (lately anyway)  Wheres the good stuff?

 

[Avalanche Fox]

I havn't been mean!  (lately anyway)  Wheres the good stuff?

 

Cen CAL... not Cen FLO 


i have LOTS of good info re: the car business... been doing it ALOT of years and am VERY good at it 

[Tango Chaser]

Cen CAL... not Cen FLO 


i have LOTS of good info re: the car business... been doing it ALOT of years and am VERY good at it 

O O O O, That remeinds me I'm not "central" anymore. Gotta change that!

[Steelheadchaser]

u get the CenCal folks to quite being so mean to me and i'll post up all kinds of good stuff... 

Attention to anyone this may concern: Stop being mean to AvFox.

[Tango Chaser]

Attention to anyone this may concern: Stop being mean to AvFox.

That worked! 

[Steelheadchaser]

That worked! 

What can I say - It's a gift. 

We really prefer to see everyone being nice to everybody else and not just during this time of year.

[MadLvn]

Avalanche (Corvette) Fox:

I'm sorry for insisting, but I'd really appreciate your input on this message I posted:

Thank you very much for the info!! I have one more question however. Does bonus cash apply only when you buy the vehicle (finance the entire amount) or is it also valid on a lease as well? The reason I ask is because in the image you attached there is a "BND" incentive which just says Bonus Cash program, meanwhile the "BCH" incentive says Purchase Bonus cash incentive. Do they both apply to a lease? Also, thanks to a kind member of this forum, I have a GMID cert which will get me supplier pricing and there is an additional incentive called Supplier Bonus Cash which is an additional $250 off. Am I entitled to all three if I lease the car? I priced it out on the GMSupplier website and below the supplier price it states current offers - $2,000 (which is the sum of the above incentives), however, I don't know if I should expect this on a lease as well. Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks again! This forum has been truly helpful! I will post pics ASAP!!