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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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Quote from: MyBigToy on 11/04/07 07:19 PM
Nice writeup. Now I'm interested to see your 1/4 times once you get everything sorted out.
You and me both! Once i get the new axle in and get some milledge on it I will be heading down to the track...
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So Dave, did it turn out to be the rear axle and the trans is okay? Or did you end up with two problems?
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Quote from: Lord Aries on 11/04/07 08:27 PM
You and me both! Once i get the new axle in and get some milledge on it I will be heading down to the track...
I think we need to plan a track day GTG for sometime in January
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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Quote from: sssMOkinAV on 11/04/07 08:35 PM
I think we need to plan a track day GTG for sometime in January
Great idea!
Did you know that besides the wednesday and friday evening test and tunes, Speedworld also has Sunday funday from 10:00AM to 4:00PM.
Maybe we all ought to skip church and go Sunday.
Here's Januarys scherdule:
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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If you folk's can make it the first week Of February I'll come down
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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Quote from: DaytonaZ71 on 11/04/07 08:43 PM
Great idea!
Did you know that besides the wednesday and friday evening test and tunes, Speedworld also has Sunday funday from 10:00AM to 4:00PM.
Maybe we all ought to
skip church
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Here's Januarys scherdule:
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January 9 "Street Drags"
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January 11 "Street Drags"
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January 13 "Funday Sunday"
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January 16 "Street Drags"
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January 18 "Street Drags"
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January 25 "Street Drags"
Wednesday
January 30 "Street Drags"
sounds great, Tim!!!!!do you know if the first week in Feb is open?
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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WOW
Hey good job on taking the ffort to accomplish this when alot of people havent even heard of this, me included. I thought this was on putting a 6spd auto to ur ride but wow.
saw your post on how your selling your tires. And i have to tell you i looked at your trucks pics alot since mine is pewter and black cladding as well and i love the wheels on it. I would buy the rims in a heartbeat but i just put new 17 tire size on mine.
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Quote from: sssMOkinAV on 11/04/07 10:36 PM
sounds great, Tim!!!!!do you know if the first week in Feb is open?
Wednesday and Friday nights are open the first week.
http://www.speedworlddragway.com/schedule/
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ChevyGuyNC, Yes it is the rear axle and I am allready working on a 1-ton Axle upgrade to match the 1-ton transmission.
butterfingarz, thanks man glad you liked reading about the project!
Going on a Saturday or Sunday to Biflo Drag Track is not a good idea because they usualy don't give out Time Slips, it is purly Heads Up racing. They only do Time Slips on Wednesday and Friday nights for Test and Tune...
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UPDATE: 11-09-07
Ok, I've got my nex axle on order and being built!!! Hopefully will be here a couple of weeks...
It will be a GM 14 Bolt Full Floating 1-Ton Axle w/4.56 gears and a Detroit Gear Locker. Also it will come converted to Disc brakes and I am sending the guy my axle so he can move all the Coil Suspension parts to the new one... That means a Bolt in installation when the new one arrives!
Since the new axle will be 8 Lug Wheel Hubs I will run Wheel adapters in the front so, that I can run 8 Lug Rims all the way around... I also need the Adapters to space the front rims out a little becauset the 14 Bolt axle is wider then the factory 10 Bolt.
As usual I will have a full Write Up, Review and Photos thread for you guys when its done.
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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Quote from: Lord Aries on 11/09/07 08:46 AM
UPDATE: 11-09-07
Ok, I've got my nex axle on order and being built!!! Hopefully will be here a couple of weeks...
It will be a GM 14 Bolt Full Floating 1-Ton Axle w/4.56 gears and a Detroit Gear Locker. Also it will come converted to Disc brakes and I am sending the guy my axle so he can move all the Coil Suspension parts to the new one... That means a Bolt in installation when the new one arrives!
Since the new axle will be 8 Lug Wheel Hubs I will run Wheel adapters in the front so, that I can run 8 Lug Rims all the way around... I also need the Adapters to space the front rims out a little becauset the 14 Bolt axle is wider then the factory 10 Bolt.
As usual I will have a full Write Up, Review and Photos thread for you guys when its done.
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I think the 8 bolt axles are narrower by 3 inches, or at least they are on the 2500
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love the writeup dude and love the setup even more
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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Quote from: MichiganSilver03 on 11/09/07 09:20 AM
I think the 8 bolt axles are narrower by 3 inches, or at least they are on the 2500
There are different wdiths availible in the 14 Bolt axles, I am going with one of the wider ones at 70 Inches over the Stock 10 Bolt Avalanche axle that is about 67 Inches wide...
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Not that you're super worried about it, but how has this improved your fuel economy? I'd be interested in seeing that.
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i see a new driveshaft in someone's future.
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Quote from: gn85 on 11/09/07 11:19 AM
Not that you're super worried about it, but how has this improved your fuel economy? I'd be interested in seeing that.
On my drive you Savannah I saw a 2mpg improvment, more even around town!
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Hey Dave aka Lord Aries
your not playing fair...................Your most unique AV keeps getting more so with all these improvements. Heavy Duty Axles, 6 speed manual tranny, and that darn snorkel tube. I guess I'll just have to concede that my poor little 0l'e whitediamond will never be more than the runner up most unique AV. In the greater scheme of things I'm no more than 1st place loser..................
Great write-up by the way and I can't wait to see and hear about your finished product..................Dave 03
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i can already see who the first to have a diesel av will be..
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Quote from: jimbo53188 on 11/09/07 05:02 PM
i can already see who the first to have a diesel av will be..
I don't think you're lying. Lord Aries, you have got to be the craziest person on here. To just take a completely good, working transmission and replace it with a manual 6 speed is..... well, I'd rather not say that. How does your brain work to come up with things like this?
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jimbo, I have already looked into a Diesel swap very deep and it CAN be done and it would NOT be that hard to do!!!! Worst part is finding a Complete used Duramax motor in good condition for under $6,000... But, thats a good price considering what the motor is capible of...
joeami, yea my brain is wired a little diffirent then most.
The creative center has control over pretty much every other part of my brain....
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Quote from: Lord Aries on 11/12/07 08:31 AM
jimbo, I have already looked into a Diesel swap very deep and it CAN be done and it would NOT be that hard to do!!!! Worst part is finding a Complete used Duramax motor in good condition for under $6,000... But, thats a good price considering what the motor is capible of...
joeami, yea my brain is wired a little diffirent then most.
The creative center has control over pretty much every other part of my brain....
Hey LA,if you want to do the 6.6 swap...let me know.there is a junkyard over in Moultrie,Ga i know of that can get you the entire 6.6 duramax drivetrain and the accessories for $6,000 with a warranty.
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Quote from: kavesman1 on 11/12/07 04:04 PM
Hey LA,if you want to do the 6.6 swap...let me know.there is a junkyard over in Moultrie,Ga i know of that can get you the entire 6.6 duramax drivetrain and the accessories for $6,000 with a warranty.
I made a note of this/you in my list of crazy stuff I want... I wonder how much life my little 5.3L has left in it, it would be a shame if my turbo
accidently
over boosted to say 18lbs and blew it apart...
When I get a new house with a real Garrage, then you will see madness with machinery...
P.S. There are a few other things that are needed with the 6.6L Duramax swap that also drive the cost up...
- Fuel Tank
- Fuel Sending System
- PCM
- Other misc crap
- 2500HD Torsion Bars or Solid Front Axle Conversion
- Oh and of course some good old fasion Welding of the Frame to mount/support the 6.6L Duramax...
But, this is still a viable option when compared to the cost of building a 408 Stroker Motor...
But, I am getting off topic now...
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Re: 6-Speed Manual Transmission Swap
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Quote from: Lord Aries on 11/12/07 04:32 PM
I made a note of this/you in my list of crazy stuff I want... I wonder how much life my little 5.3L has left in it, it would be a shame if my turbo
accidently
over boosted to say 18lbs and blew it apart...
When I get a new house with a real Garrage, then you will see madness with machinery...
P.S. There are a few other things that are needed with the 6.6L Duramax swap that also drive the cost up...
- Fuel Tank
- Fuel Sending System
- PCM
- Other misc crap
- 2500HD Torsion Bars or Solid Front Axle Conversion
- Oh and of course some good old fasion Welding of the Frame to mount/support the 6.6L Duramax...
But, this is still a viable option when compared to the cost of building a 408 Stroker Motor...
But, I am getting off topic now...
You want to talk to someone who thinks the same...then here you go.Here's a price/parts list of what you need.These prices are rough estimates,and are negotiable through the people i know.
DriveTrain:6.6l, ZF 6speed, :$6000
Accessory drives: :Included with drivetrain
Electronics:PCM,ECM,TCM,etc :Included with drivetrain
Instrument cluster:6.6l :$200
Frame: Complete 6.6l 6spd :$1000
Tank: Plus all fuel lines,pump,sender :$350
Solid axle conversion kit :$1600 +
Ford Solid front Axle: 4.10 geared,ABS :$1200 +/-
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Current Totals
$10350 + S/H
I'm still the only one in my area who stuffed a stroker 540ci caddy motor into a 89 RS T-Top Camaro...and didn't have to cut the firewall or fenders out to make it fit.
What do you think of those prices?? Send me a PM on stuff you need,and I'll check my sources.
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OMG! I want to drive this Frankenstein AV! Very impressive LA
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