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Done with this POS Avalanche truck!!!

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beergut said:
hahaha- are you serious? "closed it to any thought except mine." Yes, I have my own thoughts, because the ones posted above don't make any sense, sorry to disagree but I am the worlds most leading authority on my opinion, and my opinion is based on a solid foundation of facts compromised by the sum of many hours of research and reading over the past 6 months since I bought this money pit.

I'm a Quality Control Analyst for one of the worlds largest pharmaceutical research manufacturers- before my current position I was a QC Analyst for a manufacturer that fabricated "machines" for military / government applications- QC is my field, it's what I know.

That being said...  A few problems here and there over the course of many years, on any one vehicle's model in particular is normal- BUT similar complaints (in the thousands) about very specific failures in a very particular model year cluster is not to be considered a "lemon" vehicle purchased from a dealer. Simply put, it's a failure by the manufacturer to utilize the proper research & development and to secure quality components to build their automobiles. This is why european & Japanese manufacturing is far superior to that found here in America. European manufacturers allocate a much larger percentage of money on research & design and emphasize  the importance of quality engineering. American manufacturers spend more money designing vehicles with pretty bells & whistles to entice the consumer into a purchase. This is a fact, by the way, not an opinion- It was my undergraduate thesis.

The failures I have experienced with this truck are not caused by a lack of using it- or as a result of driving it 30k miles in the past 6 months. Justifying these failures as "common" is ludicrous and is the path I expected die hard pro avalanche owners to take.

The truck I bought was (ascetically)  perfect in every way, with a clean car-fax with regular service records reported.
Your comments about regular service makes absolutely no sense to me! What type of maintenance are you referring to? What maintenance do you perform for a wiper motor, door window motor, AC actuator and a speedo gage cluster??? What kind of "regular maintenance" ensures a transmission won't need to be replaced 3 TIMES IN THE PAST 5 MONTHS!!!

Your comments make absolutely no sense taken in the context of my truck's failures! And the cherry on top of this heap of mechanical failure is that THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO OWN THE SAME VEHICLE ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS!!!!!  

A sincere thank you to those who tried to help, I appreciated your input.     :wave:


If your so high up in your company why are you buying a used vehicle anyways? stick to your audi's and bmws if that's your thing, we have ours, and go with the types of trucks we use/like ect.  Every car requires maintenance. Audi, for example has a terrible design with it's timing belt that has to be replaced every 100k or sooner, that in itself is not cheap, then the brakes, the cost to have serviced, the high price of special oil yada yada yada.... (my mom has a 06 A8L for around town (tires she just bought alone were $2500 that last only 20,000 miles at MOST, I called michelin and complained until they said that's alot for those tires normal is 15k, and yeah, stock wheels) and a 07 SL63 amg benz that is incredibly overpriced for her use of it) you want to know a real pile of junk, it's those, Great design, if you have money to take care of it, I unfortunately do not make 100k+ a year to cover it. I'm with the rest of america that loves my chevy truck and goes to work to earn my living. The cost of fixing these are something we take in to consideration. Perhaps you should have done more research before you bought one....perhaps even looking into issues with it. then again, any car is going to have issues.

3 trannys, that's alot of bad luck. Plain and simple. Some people have alot of that. You more than others


I'd love to sit on here and argue all day, but as for me, I'll stick with my Beloved Avy, She's everything I could want, and I'm sure there are alot of people here that would agree. I don't mind getting my hands dirty and fixing a few things here and there. But hey, i'm sure i'll have a wife one day that will have a lot of maintenance and upkeep too, but i'll still keep her around regardless.

P.S. You sound like a prick. No offense. Just saying.
 
quote: "I unfortunately do not make 100k+ a year to cover it. I'm with the rest of america that loves my chevy truck and goes to work to earn my living. The cost of fixing these are something we take in to consideration. Perhaps you should have done more research before you bought one....perhaps even looking into issues with it. then again, any car is going to have issues.

3 trannys, that's alot of bad luck. Plain and simple. Some people have alot of that. You more than others"

coonhunter1 said:
Couldn't have said it better myself jolt he can afford a summer home but not a new truck

yep- that's exactly the kind of 2nd grade answer I'd expect from some people.
What the f**k does my summer home have to do with the failures my truck has???

Bad luck you say  :laugh:   try poor engineering.

Here- lets sell my $75k northern maine summer house- NOW DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS POS TRUCK????
c'mon-


Are you implying I don't "work" for a living? I grew up with nothing- public schools, no money for college- spent 8 years in the Marines, first gulf to take advantage of the GI Bill- spent 5 years as a carpenter and a diesel mechanic while studying in college to secure a position in quality control R&D- And I don't make anything near $100k year.

You sir- are a simpleton.
Your comment does nothing but deflect the issues. I've simply stated the "common" problems with these trucks and my opinion on it- last time I checked, I could do that. If you don't like it- then don't read the post!

man- amazed at how lost and unrelated some of these responses are!
 
Glad I'm off this week, this is better than the daytime soaps!


didit
 
Thats it...

Enough...
now children go sit in the corner for a few hours...

Read what you wrote.. and find all the personal attacks.. and then think about what if you swapped places how would you feel..

to Original poster.. sorry for your troubles..
it happens..

but as I always say go get second opinion from another dealer...

this thread is closed
 
beergut said:
These trucks fall apart like wet newspaper in a wind storm once they reach 99k! Junk!

We're sorry to hear about your bad experience, I don't blame you for being soured on Chevy trucks with that laundry list of problems. Thousands of others have had little or no problems other than routine maintenance or wear & tear. 

If you count Chevy/GMC/Cadillac GMT800 truck & SUV models they far outsold the Ford F150/250/350 and it's sibling SUVs. Data is available from many sources as to reliablity since the GMT800 ceased production in 2006, again sorry you got dealt a bad hand  :( 
 
My guess is that beergut got a truck used and it wasn't well taken care of. 

I did that with my '95 Jimmy.  Bought it at 70K miles and had multiple issues with injectors and the 4x4 system.  Still drove it to 150K miles.

Just passed 80K miles this weekend on my AV.  >:D
 
not sure what kind of maintenance one would perform on a wiper motor, door window motor, ac acuator, speedo gage and just yesterday the illumination behind the climate controls went dark, and other then changing the fluid after 70k, why a tranny would blow- 3 times in 5 months..... these tranny's are junk, the amount of problems documented with these chevy transmissions are staggering! I've printed up gobs of info on these transmissions failing.

Bearings I'd expect to go at 100k-

ehh- no matter, it'll be someone elses problem soon.
 
I'd say for the electrical items, maybe garaging the truck if you live in a place where it gets cold. (I live in Southern California.)

As for the tranny, I've heard of issues but know only anecdotal evidence of a bad design.  AFAIK, this transmission has been in service with minor changes for almost 20 years and is really only an enhancement to the 700R4 from '82.  You can search my posts - if the transmission goes, you do not rebuild with the same model. You get a more beefy model that can handle the type of service you put into it.  Only things I've done with this transmission are to change the fluid annually and add a transmission cooler. (I just got back from a camping trip where I towed a 3,000# trailer up over 9,000 feet in 100-degree weather.)
 
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"if the transmission goes, you do not rebuild with the same model. You get a more beefy model that can handle the type of service you put into it."

If the tranny goes- it gets replaced with what ever tranny the factory says goes in it that's covered under a warranty. Replacing the oem tranny would void any warranty on the motor & drivetrain.


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"I'd say for the electrical items, maybe garaging the truck if you live in a place where it gets cold. (I live in Southern California.)"

that's not a viable option / solution. Should not have to garage a truck because it's cold out- Half the planet is in a colder climate-
 
Beergut... That sucks  :E:

More to the point.  Since I live in south Florida, I rarely, if ever need heat.  The nasty hot driver's side thang is happening more frequently and bugs the crap outta me.  So...

Since the default position for the actuator is heat...
how about jammin, crammin, or rammin something into the Blend Door Actuator to keep in in the cold position.

Any ideas along that line?

Holla  >:D
 
I got rid of my avalanche- couldn't keep up with the repairs. Bought a ford edge and not missing that avalanche a single bit!
Seems like people around here are more likely to justify and excuse these issues as "normal"
instead of what it really is- poor craftsmanship.

People on here have actually responded by telling me to keep it in a heated garage, or to do regular maintenance-
How do you do maintenance on a speedo gage, wiper motor, window motor and transmission? Or they say it's normal for these items to fail- WELL, NOT ON A 5 YEAR OLD TRUCK!!

Hell- I have a 1970 Lemans with over 200k on it- same wiper motor- never had a tranny flush- and all the gages work!
I know- apples  & oranges but- THIS WAS A $40,000 TRUCK!!! I SHOULD NOT HAVE THESE ISSUES ON A 5 YEAR OLD  $40k TRUCK!!!

heated garage :laugh:
 
Hope you enjoy your F@rd Edge  >:D
 
I am- I love it!
Built better, drives better, handles better, better on gas, have a 10 year warranty on it and I bet the house my wiper motor will work in 5 years, my ac won't fry my face off, my speedo won't be stuck at 120mph and I won't go through 3 factory installed transmissions-

Good luck with your avalanche.
 
I've had 1 problem with mine in 93K miles. But good luck with your F@rd (y) 
 
Good Luck with the Ford....Before Buying my AV, I test drove about 10 of them, ranging in age from Brand-new, to 2003 with 170K miles.

The Z-71's with 170K Miles drove like new, which is what convinced me it was a well built vehicle. I dont disagree there do seem to be some common dip sh!t problems GM never addressed on all their trucks, but overall a very well built vehicle.

I owned a few Fords...I know a few Ford owners....Give it 4 years, and see how you like it....There are other issues with fords such as the materials used in weather seals, gaskets, and&finish of body parts...the ford will have its own problems....and has anyone ever owned a Ram past 60K miles...those things literally start falling apart, after my friend owned 2 brand new Rams from 2003 and 2006 it convinced me Dodge was a great looking poorly made short-term vehicle.

And if the Ford looses 30% of its power after 2 years...dont say I didnt warn ya....

Good luck, and hope it works out for you.


beergut said:
I got rid of my avalanche- couldn't keep up with the repairs. Bought a ford edge and not missing that avalanche a single bit!
Seems like people around here are more likely to justify and excuse these issues as "normal"
instead of what it really is- poor craftsmanship.

People on here have actually responded by telling me to keep it in a heated garage, or to do regular maintenance-
How do you do maintenance on a speedo gage, wiper motor, window motor and transmission? Or they say it's normal for these items to fail- WELL, NOT ON A 5 YEAR OLD TRUCK!!

Hell- I have a 1970 Lemans with over 200k on it- same wiper motor- never had a tranny flush- and all the gages work!
I know- apples  & oranges but- THIS WAS A $40,000 TRUCK!!! I SHOULD NOT HAVE THESE ISSUES ON A 5 YEAR OLD  $40k TRUCK!!!

heated garage :laugh:
 
Sounds like you got you a lemon not an Avalanche. So sad to hear of your troubles got 124,695 on my 04 and only had mostly normal maintenance stuff (knock on wood) Love my truck and plan to keep it for a few more years.  Key word "Plan" :B: :B:
beergut said:
I bought my 2004 at around 66k also- now it has about 100k-

lets see...

speedometer is broken
steering clunks left to right
ac blows hot air on drivers side
cv boots torn
wiper motor burnt out
front hub bearings gone
going on 3rd factory installed transmission within 5 months (don't even get me started!)
rear diff cover leaking

and I only drive it about 35 miles a day to & from work with an occasional trip to maine (from mass) I have to baby it for fear it will break again.

This is the worst truck I've ever owned and I'm in the process of trading it in now- maybe for a ford crossover or a toyota tacoma- done with chevy and their over-hyped & over priced avalanche!
 
Let us know when you miss your avy. I have had f@rds my whole life before this avalanche and have had nothing but trouble with all of them. Looks good and sounds good at first, but you will soon regret the f@rd, nothing compares to the versatility and looks of the avy.
 
mgoodwin said:
Let us know when you miss your avy. I have had f@rds my whole life before this avalanche and have had nothing but trouble with all of them. Looks good and sounds good at first, but you will soon regret the f@rd, nothing compares to the versatility and looks of the avy.

Not a single day that I wish I still had that pos avalanche. I am so thrilled to not have to deal with sub substandard craftmanship and obvious design flaws that the factory ignores. Unlike your self, looks and versitility (assume you're talking about the mid-gate?) arn't on the top 4 list of what I look for when I buy a vehicle- Reliability, durability, craftsmanship and maintenance are- and for a $45k truck, the avalanche is none of those. Just read the TSB's and user ratings- Avalanche got piss poor ratings.
The ford I have now is a 5-star rated vehicle and I love everything about it.

There's a reason Ford didn't have to take a handout from the gov't- for the past 8 years ford has been building high quality vehicles compared to the craftsman ship of the volvo. Yes- older 80's and early 90's fords were junk- but so was every other american made auto in that time frame.

You can love your $45k money pit with chinese made gages and it's faulty ac system (thousands of complaints) - that's fine, as for me- I'll take my 100k ford warranty and $30k crossover with twice the features then your avy any day.
I see an avalanch on the road and I feel sorry for the guy driving it.

 
Please go to your Ford site and stop the Flame wars..

I understand you had a bad experience with the Avy you owned but for the most of us you seem to be the exception not the rule....

Most of us are members here because we LIKE the avalanche... and we do not take kindly to those who just come here to start crap and break our Terms of Use rules...

I wish you well and good luck...

but this thread is closed...
 
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