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Fuel Question??? filling tank

joe435

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When does everybody fill up there tank??? I have yet to put in more than 25 gal in the tank. I have a 04 z71 and when the fuel low, range low comes on I generally filler up. But only 25 gal this morning. I thought we had 31? How accurate is the gallons used guage in the dic?
 
joe435 said:
When does everybody fill up there tank??? I have yet to put in more than 25 gal in the tank. I have a 04 z71 and when the fuel low, range low comes on I generally filler up. But only 25 gal this morning. I thought we had 31? How accurate is the gallons used guage in the dic?
I rarely get much below 1/2 tank before I fill up. Once a week, and less painful. But when I travel I'll run it closer to 1/4 before I fill up. BTW, according to specs on Edmunds it is 31 gal. tank.
 
Best not to run below 1/4 tank so the fuel pump stays mostly submerged. Nothing can kill one faster than running hot.
 
Once the fuel light comes on I figure I have at least 5 gallons left. The most I have ever put in is 29 gallons :)
 
There is a thread in the ZOne section about showing who put in the most fuel...some have gotten to 31 gallons......scary to me...

as at 31 gal fuel fill the gage must be close to w or WALK....

Some other threads in zone about how accurate the DIC is...too...

Good luck
 
I fill up around 1/4, add 20-25 gals so don't even know if the fuel light works. Painful ? I VISA it and don't look at the statement. Wife takes care of it. :love:
 
I for one am most impressed so far with the MPGs. Granted it's my first V*...but it's gets much better mileage than my V6 S-10 ever could have hoped! The S-10 would go about 180 miles then cost me $25 to fill it every 5 days. I went to Lake Anna this past Sunday. Filled up at my house, drove 97 miles and the needle was still on F (didn't even hit the first tick mark yet). I filled up when I got to the lake...4.6 gallons @ $7.50. I average about 400 miles around town (lasting me about two weeks costing me an arm and a leg $50) and highway...I break 500 miles. I'm most impressed.

Jon :B:
 
ygmn said:
There is a thread in the ZOne section about showing who put in the most fuel...some have gotten to 31 gallons......scary to me...

as at 31 gal fuel fill the gage must be close to w or WALK....

Some other threads in zone about how accurate the DIC is...too...

Good luck
Been there, low fuel light came on during my trip to Z66 Butch's GTG last Saturday in Indiana. I didn't pay any attention to it figuring there would be a gas station sign up ahead, but no sign, called OnStar who said there was a gas station ahead 19 miles up the road :eek: I checked the DIC and it showed I could go another 21 miles, so I slow down to 55 MPH and cruise into the gas station, where I fill up and it takes $56.00/30.75 gallons :eek:
I start up the truck and the gas gauge does not move from the E and the yellow low fuel light does not go off ??? so I shut her down wait a few minutes and start her up again, still the same now I'm scared, call OnStar to do a diagnostic and they say that everything looks ok, when I started it back up all was good again but I will never run the tank down that low again :-[
 
Nope, I was trying to make Exit 2 on I65 in Kentucky, as the gas is 20c cheaper a gallon there. :eek: from 100 miles out, my DIC was telling me consistently that I had 8 miles more range than the mile markers were saying to Exit 2. So even when the DIC went into 'sulk' mode (only saying 'Range Low' for the last 30-odd miles :rolleyes:) I had faith. I must admit I was nervous the last 5 miles. :D
 
joe435 said:
When does everybody fill up there tank??? I have yet to put in more than 25 gal in the tank. I have a 04 z71 and when the fuel low, range low comes on I generally filler up. But only 25 gal this morning. I thought we had 31? How accurate is the gallons used guage in the dic?

I fill up when the range reaches about 45 miles on my '04 Avy. I filled up when the warning light first appeared and it took about $45 @ $1.60 per gallon. I just sold a Ram 1500 P/U with a 5.9L. It drank the gas, but I have a Shell Mastercard that offers rebates on the gas. If you use it only for gas and pay it off every month, it is great for keeping track of your fuel costs and less of a hassle to fill it up at once and pay at the pump. :0:
 
The most? I think I win... The other day I filled up with 31.5 gallons. Ya think my av was a little Empty. I have gotten either over or close to 31 gallons many of times, when the gas gauge hits E it actually means EMPTY!!!!!
 
Flint4x4 said:
I fill up around 1/4, add 20-25 gals so don't even know if the fuel light works. Painful ? I VISA it and don't look at the statement. Wife takes care of it. :love:
Lucky you...I fill my Av AND her Explorer out of MY "allowance". :6: And anybody that thinks their Av uses gas should drive a 5.0 Explorer. :7:
 
I have an 02 and I usually fill it up before it gets empty but I've have the low fuel light go on a few times. If I fill it up within about 20 miles after the light goes on it still only takes about 26 gals. I think the most I've ever filled which was with driving with the light on for a while was still under 29.
 
If i didnt fill the 03 my wife drives, it would never get filled......lol, hurts a bit filling the 03 and the 04 every week !
 
Tanc Crusher said:
Best not to run below 1/4 tank so the fuel pump stays mostly submerged. Nothing can kill one faster than running hot.
Where to begin with this thread... OK, to respond to this comment, the pump will be submerged during all normal driving. The fuel module design includes a reservoir that continually keeps fuel around the pump under low fuel driving conditions. Otherwise, if you had under 3 gallons left and you went around a corner, you'd stall due to the sloshing of the fuel to the side of the tank.

Also, it's not critical that the pump stays in fuel to keep it from running hot in the module systems. Due to the design, there will be less than 1 quart of fuel remaining in the tank - less than 5 miles worth of driving. It won't heat up enough in that condition to cause any issues. In fact, with newer pumps, they don't build up enough heat to damage them as pumps made even 10 years ago could. Heck, one of our pump durability test stands is set up to run a test where only the pump strainer sock is submerged in fuel, not the motor, and that test runs for 500 hours without failure. :)

rcw_1951 said:
Once the fuel light comes on I figure I have at least 5 gallons left. The most I have ever put in is 29 gallons :)
It's likely a bit less than 5 gallons when the light comes on. GM fuel level sensor design guidelines turn on the light when there is less than 6% fuel ramaining in the tank which in the 31 gallon tank in the Av is equal to 1.86 gallons. Based on variations in manufacturing of the tank and sender, that may range from about 1.3 gallons to 2.6 gallons. The only way to be completely sure is to throw a jerry can of fuel in the back, and drive til you run out, noting how long the light was on, and what the odometer reading was. Again, this is a routine test that we do during validation.

tjchr said:
The most? I think I win... The other day I filled up with 31.5 gallons. Ya think my av was a little Empty. I have gotten either over or close to 31 gallons many of times, when the gas gauge hits E it actually means EMPTY!!!!!
The actual liquid capacity of the tank will vary a bit from vehicle to vehicle. It's actually 31.0 +/- 0.5 gallons of tank capacity. There is additional space (at least 7% by volume) in the tank for expansion of the fuel and vapor ventillation. If you stand at a pump and do 20 clicks on the handle, you can continue to pump fuel into that space as well. :eek: But it's not a good idea, especially when it's warm out. Since the fuel in an underground tank is typically about 50-55 F, it will heat up after it's been in your tank when it's warm, and expand. If you live in Arizona in the summer, you can easily get expansion of over 5%. If the expansion goes past the physical size of the tank, it has to find somewhere to go, which usually means into the tank vent lines, and it will cause your vehicle's emission system to fail and trigger the dreaded check engine light. :E:

As a final comment - the gauge on the dash is calibrated to have about 10% (3.1 gallons) fuel left in the tank when it reads empty. This is intentional to keep people from running out of fuel. :0: There have been many instances where someone ran out of gas, and got hit by another vehicle while walking to the filling station. :-[ Needless to say, no one wants that to happen, so as a precaution, the OEM's want you to fill up before you run out.

If anyone has any other fuel system related questions, feel free to post them and I'll try to answer... :)
 
UncleMiltie,
Great info. I do have a question... Is my SOP safe?
I fill the tank at full flow until auto-shutoff, then I re-squeeze the trigger at about 1/4 of full flow until auto-shutoff again. Then I stop.
My reasoning is that at full flow, there is a significant amount of foaming in the fill neck at shutoff, this disspates quickly, but I figure it was the foam, not the gas level that triggered shut off. The last squeeze at 1/4 flow fills to shutoff without noticeable foaming...
The nozzle is fully inserted during all this procedure..
 
Tree_Hugger said:
UncleMiltie,
Great info. I do have a question... Is my SOP safe?
I fill the tank at full flow until auto-shutoff, then I re-squeeze the trigger at about 1/4 of full flow until auto-shutoff again. Then I stop.
My reasoning is that at full flow, there is a significant amount of foaming in the fill neck at shutoff, this disspates quickly, but I figure it was the foam, not the gas level that triggered shut off. The last squeeze at 1/4 flow fills to shutoff without noticeable foaming...
The nozzle is fully inserted during all this procedure..
You're absolutely fine. The standard is to allow for a 3 click refueling event - full speed until initial shut off, full speed on one click, slow speed on two more clicks, with 15 seconds between each shut off and the next attempt. GM really tries to restrict the amount you can add past the first shut off, to prevent overstuffing of the tank. But in any case, yes, you're safe.

Now if I could only get the stupid rumors about cell phones at fuel stations stopped, we'd all be better off... (Even a faulty Cell Phone does not have enough energy to ignite fuel at a gas station - but the Static Electricity from hopping in and out of your car definitely can!)
 
once it hits the 1/4 tank mark, we start looking for gas stations. If it gets below 1/8th of a tank, we head straight to a station to fill up.
 
UncleMiltie said:
Now if I could only get the stupid rumors about cell phones at fuel stations stopped, we'd all be better off... (Even a faulty Cell Phone does not have enough energy to ignite fuel at a gas station - but the Static Electricity from hopping in and out of your car definitely can!)

Did you watch Mythbusters on Discovery ? If those guys can't cause ignition with a cellphone it can't happen, they try ! Static Electricity certainly can but if you must reenter the vehical simply physically (no gloves) touch the side on exit and not near the gas nozzle !
 
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