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Fumoto Valve Fram sure drain etc

THEOFILOS2002 said:
Hey Tincup,

I'd buy a filter like that is a heartbeat. ?Not sure if the manufacturers would make somthing like that - may not be cost effective for them. ?As an alternative, I've tried knocking a couple of holes in the filter with a nail and hammer. ?It does drain slowly, but with the advent of directing the flow of the oil with a SureDrain and 18" rubber hose to the funnel of the oil receptical I wont have to wait for that to finish before I "nail the filter". ?This amounts to a one step process.

Works for me! ? ;D

Cheers!

I usually do the hole in the filter deal, too. Still end up with oil all over the joint. Maybe trying the Sure Drain thing will help some.
 
To answer VT Hokie,a true drain is when you drain to to bottom.The fram sure drain allows the worst oil to stay in the oil pan.
 
after reading that oil filter study in one of the forums i am not sure if i want to use Fram's products anymore. i have not used any in the AV thank goodness. i do use them in the wives' truck. although i did buy a Mobil1 filter and Mobil1 non-synthetic oil. now just the air filter is left to change. :B:
 
I would not get too excited about one study. I have been using Fram filters for over a decade, if not longer. These are APPROVED filters and do not void your warranty.. I never had a problem. Plus I use the Fram drain system also, works great.
 
We had Pat Goss (The Mechanic on the PBS TV show Motorweek) put on a seminar at our school. He had several different oil filters cut apart so that you could see the quality of material used. The Mobil 1 filter looked to be a very superior product, and of course carries a very superior price. Pat says that the filtration ability of all of the SAE approved filters is about the same - the difference is in the amount of debris that they can hold before clogging up. The Mobil filter should hold alot more "stuff" than the Fram or other economical filters. That said, he went on to say that if you change your oil on a regular basis, you will not need that additional capacity because your oil will not get that contaminated. He also said that his reccomendation is to use the oil filter made by the vehicle manufacturer (AC for GM products). He has found that they seem to be the best compromise between quality and price. He said that GM vehicles seem to be less prone to the common "cold engine knock" when using AC filters than many other oil filter brands. After hearing this I visited the local Chevy dealer and bought their $4 AC filter rather than the $11 Mobil 1 filter.
 
My fram system sure seems to be very very slow! Does anybody else have this problem? I am very tempted to go and change back to the old plug! I am sorry I do not have an hour to do an oil change!!
 
Fumoto drain valve here, quick flow, very easy, no mess (I used a piece of tubing). Now the oil filter removal is another thing, alough the 2 liter soda bottle cut in half trick seems to help
 
Hello all!

I've used the fram system a couple times so far on my AV. I love it!

One major thing though. . . make sure the engine and therefore the oil is HOT! If not it takes forever and a day for the oil to drain. Last time I changed the oil fairly quickly, with very little mess. The only issue is the oil filter, but the mess caused there seems to be unavoidable.

As a matter of fact, I will be changing the oil tomorrow.
:)
 
Just picked up a Sure Drain plug today from a local Auto Parts store. Hope to instal it & change oil tomorrow. (Looks like oil change day) Of course I won't know how it drains until next oil change. Learning lots here. I had never heard of using a pop bottle cut in half either. Sounds like a plan.
I did purchase the AC filter for now. Lot cheaper, & I figure my next oil change won't be too far off. Then I am going synthetic.
Traz
 
Well, I did change my oil today (1st time). I had bought the SD4 plug, (which seems to be the right plug for a 2003, 2500) but I decided not to install it. (since some had said they had trouble with the oil draining slowly when using the Sure Drain plug.)
I didn't have any trouble draining the oil & getting it where I wanted it to go. I used the cut in half 2L pop bottle & just directed the oil to my pan. No fuss, no mess. When I took off the filter I put the lid back on the pop bottle & lossened the filter until it dropped in the half cut bottle.
Next change I will switch to synthetic oil.
Traz
 
It is the SD4 and it works GREAT!!
I've used it three times now with nooo problem. Highly recommend it.
iceman
 
From the Fumoto web site, I believe that the F-107 valve is correct for the 2002 AV. Did you get the model with the nipple or without? How do you like it?

Steelheadchaser said:
This problem was discussed a few months ago. Then the fix everyone seemed to mention was the Fumoto Valve. I believe several people bought these.
 
Just for everyone's information the Fumoto valve for the 2002 Avalanche is F107 with adapter. F107 is the regular valve and the F107N has the nipple for draining through a hose. Fumoto recommends against the F107N cars with low clearance. While I have a 4wd Z71, I still got the F107N since I haven't seen any dents or scapes new the drip pan.
 
Wonder if you can plumb in a piece of copper tubing to it and bend around the obstacles. That would be a clean permanent solution.

Years back I used to run an oil filter with replaceable elements. Haven't seen them lately. Great thing about it was the drain valve built right into the bottom of the filter.

You could always relocate your filter too. That can make things easier.

Jonathan
 
On the 2003 Av be sure you buy BOTH the plug AND adapter. The F107 and F107N [adapter] must be ordered at same time. This does beat the standard plug operation hands down and hangs down only 1/2 inch more than OEM. Also, if you punch a hole in the filter before removal you will eliminate the problem. Of course if you do not change your own oil do not waste the money.
 
hmmm, i'd be too worried about some punk kid zippin around under trucks in the parking lot, flippin your drain plug open. that'd be fun to come out of target to. :7:

i have a big drain pan, and realy good access to the oil filter and plug with the lift, so i dont get too much of a mess doin it the old fashined way.
 
well, any punk kid can, if he so chooses, get under any Av (especially yours if you have a lift ;) ) and open up the oil drain bolt too, but let's stick the real world here since that scenario is so very unlikely too.

Anyway, I put the fumoto valve on the Av soon after I got it back in Nov 01, all I can say is don't knock until you have tried it - for instance, I put the Av up on a ramp to change the oil (makes it even more spacious under there) and when changing the oil on any of my vehicles, a slight breeze can make the oil stream in the last few minutes (just before the drip drip phase) wander out of the catch pan area - the fumoto valve w/ nipple lets you solve for this quite handily. Not to mention not having to engage in the old favorite game of "twist the hot oil drain bolt off for the last few turns by hand, and quickly pull it away once the threads are clear" - which, since I assume we are all doing this task ourselves on this thread, is a real PITA.
 
Jackalanche- succiinct analysis of exactly how good the Fumoto oil plag really performs. I have always changed all my vehicles oil and the oil part problem is the fast dash removing that threaded plug by hand because you will Always get the oil on you or drop it in the oil drain pan. The Fumoto eliminates all that. And I wonder what weird kid hs time to egt under every Av to try and find out who the h--l has a Fumoto vs regular drain plug. It's not like there is a sticker or ad on the Av. Your spot on about the Fumoto.
 
I picked up a FRAM sure drain kit today from PepBoys. They had them for $7.99. Anyone else using this for oil changes?
 
tried one when they first came out, it leaked as it didn't appear to have enough threads to fully seat  :6:
 
wildfire said:
tried one when they first came out, it leaked as it didn't appear to have enough threads to fully seat? :6:

Yeah, I'm a little worried about that. The directions say that if the included copper washer does not seat against the oil pan to place back in package and return. Should post on my experience over the weekend.
 
We gave away two of the Fumoto Valves at the Central Indiana Modding GTG. The first guy to win one broke it off trying to install it, part of it was left in his threads of the drain plug! Luckily someone got it out for him. The second winner would not install it!

Butch
 
Irontrain said:
Yeah, I'm a little worried about that. The directions say that if the included copper washer does not seat against the oil pan to place back in package and return. Should post on my experience over the weekend.
Hope it works out for you, functionally it worked well when I drained the oil to remove it
 
wildfire said:
tried one when they first came out, it leaked as it didn't appear to have enough threads to fully seat? :6:

I installed the FRAM SD4 today. Went on with no problems. The directions say to torque at 20-27ft.lbs I went with 24ft.lbs. and had no leaks and next oil change no drips hopefully
 
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