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Playing MP3 CD-R's In Factory AV CD Player?

DarkEye

DarkEye

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There was some member that stated they were able to play MP3 CD-R's in the factory AV CD player. I don't recall who that was because the messages got lost during the last crash.

I have made a CD-R with MP3's on it and cannot get it to work with my factory unit in my AV. Has anyone else done this before? Maybe I'm not making the MP3 CD's correctly. I'm using the latest version on Nero 5.5.8.2 to create the CD with the MP3's. Still won't work.

Is this a lost cause? Was that other member wrong about playing MP3 CD's in the stock AV unit?
 
DarkEye, I also use Nero 5.5, I tried several different brands of disk before trying Memorex Cool Colors and Memorex Gold. Both seem to work just fine.
 
The stock head unit will not play compressed MP3 audio. You must burn the CD-R's with the MP3's uncompressed meaning you can only get up to 80 minutes. The latest Nero or Easy CD Creator will take MP3 files as input to create a CD audio disc.

goo929
 
Tiregod1 said:
DarkEye, I also use Nero 5.5, I tried several different brands of disk before trying Memorex Cool Colors and Memorex Gold. Both seem to work just fine.
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I just got a 40x12x48 TEAC CD-RW drive and got some Memorex 700MB 40x CD-R's. Do you think those will work? My first try was using a TEON 1x-24x CD-R and that did not work. I looked on the Memorex site and cannot fine the Memorex Gold brand.

Tiregod1 - So from your quote above, you have played compressed MP3 audio in a stock AV head unit? What speed CD-R did you use?

I have been able to make music CD's from MP3's (after they are converted to wav's) and they will play fine in my AV. Of course, you can only get around 10-15 songs on them.

 
I've been able to play memorex, fuji, and sony CD-R's without any problems in the stock unit. The files must be in normal wave format though, they cannot be compressed into MP3. The unit is not an MP3 player
 
DarkEye, I havenot been able to play compressed files. Only converted, but these are better than none. I am going to check out hte adapeter for aux. input I saw in another thread to see if I can hook up my mp3 jukebox to it. :B:
 
Its not the brand of CD's you use that determines whether or not you can read them in the stock player.

What you need to check for is if when you are creating the CD file and are about to burn it check to make sure you are finalizing the CD.

If you arent what is happening is the CD is left "open" for more information to be added to it later. And that means only CD-R drives can read that CD.

So check your settings on your software. I have used Nero before and not had any problems. I now use Easy CD Creator...only because it came with the ne Dell.

Hope this helps. If not let me know and I can check into it more. I am a little bit of computer nerd.
 
Remember, if using Nero or similiar burning software, you have to close the session after the disc is burned, otherwise it won't play. If using the default software that came with Windows XP, it is automatic. Also, you have to be sure that that you are burning audio, not data. Unconverted MP3 files are seen as data files, and must be uncompressed to a .wav format to be used. Even though you have 700MB discs, it won't hold 700MB worth of mp3's, only a deck that is specifically designed to play uncompressed files can be used. Another thing to watch for is to use only CD-R's, and not CD-RW's. I use only Memorex Black, which not only look cool, they seem to be very high quality.
 
To add to all the comments here...
By converting the MP3s to uncompressed, basically you are just burning lo-fi wav files. The software is converting your compressed MP3 files to WAV files in the CDA format. There seems to be no benefit from burning in this format. You aren't saving that much disk space. You'd be better off burning normal audio onto an 80min CD-R and having a true original recording.

Or am I missing something? I always thought that converting MP3 audio to CD-R music meant the MP3 files are being converted to WAV. That's the only way the CD player can read the tracks (CDA format).

Jamie
 
I am not sure what it converts it to, but it is the same quality as an MP3.

There is no loss in the recording....thats why everyone downloads Mp3's and why napster got in deep doo doo.

But I checked with both Nero and Easy CD Creator and you must choose to end the session in order for the CD to be readable.

Happy listening.
 
WhiteAVZ71, as soon as you start making MP3s, you have a lower-quality recording. Part of the compression algorythm the MP3 uses shaves the bottom end off. It also tends to flatten out the sound. Which is why popular interfaces, such as WinAmp, alway include an EQ so you can re-EQ your tunes. A WAV file, an exact match of the original recording is about 10MB per imnute of recorded audio. A 128-bit MP3 file is about 1MB per minute of recorded audio. In order to compress the musical data into one-tenth the size, something has to go. Often it is the low end as this uses far more bandwidth than the high end uses. I am certainly no expert here, but this is how I have come to understand the differences between the file types. In order for a non-MP3 capable player to play MP3s, they had to be converted to WAV and then recorded under the CDA format.

If I am wrong, please help me understand as this is how I have been educated in this subject area.

Jamie
 
Anybody try CDRW's in the regular cd format in the stock radio?
 
CDRWs recorded in CDA format are hit and miss. I can't get either of my CD Walkman players to read them. Only one of our computers at home can read it. I have read that there is a different wavelength or a different strength in the wavelength required due to the reflectivity of the data layer and the different thicknesses of the substrate material. From everyone I know who burns their own audio, CDRW is not the preferred media of choice. It would be nice to use as it is re-recordable, but the success rate of playback leaves a lot to be desired.

Jamie
 
My buddy just dropped in a new head unit for mp-3's that his wife got him for his birthday....I haven't had a chance to listen to the system yet...but I can inquire with him if anyone is interested......that was a good explaination Jamie....I know jack about car audio... :B:
 
CD RW's are a different beast all together.

Unlike CD R's CDRWS' can be rewritten on multiple times.

Therefore the "Session" is never ended. Most CD players cannot read this type of CD if the session isnt finished or if it has multiple sessions as is the case on some CD Rws.

I have made approx 10 CD's using the standard dell software and have had no problems unless i forget to select the finalize session option.

That is the key to being able to replay your self made CD's on any player.

Jamie.....like I said before I have no idea on what happens to the files as far as compression or what not when they are put on the CD. All i know is when i select which songs to put on my CD and record it and remeber to finalize the disk I have no probs at all.

But what you said seems logical....but I dont have the info to either agree nor dispute.

So for sake of our conversation....you are right ;D

Remember to finalize your CD's and they will work.
 
This is the JVC digifine headunit I have installed. It plays CD-RW's (I change my mind about which are my favorite 18 songs often). It also has a front face MP3 input so you can hookup your MP3 player. I burn all of my music at 128 kbbs (near CD quality). I love this baby ;D

AV_JVC_headunit.jpg

 
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