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Refinish Restorer Before/After pics

Let me e-mail my technical contacts at CarWorx too for some advice.  I know for removing RR from glass surfaces, they recommended mineral spirits, but I probably wouldn't recommend that on your cladding and panels to get the surface perfectly clean before applying the next coats.
 
I just sent a long note to the folks at CarWorx with some links to photos, what has been tried, etc.  I will certainly let the forum know what I hear back from them and from their supplier (Vosschemie in Germany).
 
Alcohol and Simple green wont break down things like Carnuba wax, great for greases and oils, but not waxes.

As long as you dont rub too hard the goof off does no harm.

badabing1 said:
seems to me goof off may be too harsh.  I like to use an all purpose cleaner like simple green and the like, and once dry follow up with alcohol.  I get 99% from a local auto paint supply or use denatured, whichever i have at the time.
 
arizona-dave said:
Alcohol and Simple green wont break down things like Carnuba wax, great for greases and oils, but not waxes.

As long as you dont rub too hard the goof off does no harm.
why would there be wax on the cladding?  ???  dish soap like dawn will remove carnuba wax.  or wipe it down with wax remover.
 
badabing1 said:
why would there be wax on the cladding?

I'm sure I'm not the only one that's been a little lazy/careless and gotten wax on the cladding when waxing the truck
 
The largest source of wax and other items would be from automatic/touchless car washes where the high pressure jets spray soap, water, and wax onto the panels.  I did receive word back from CarWorx as well.  They said that see the issues with flaking, fading, and splotching (if that is a word) comes with overapplication of the RR product, especially with multiple coats of RR applied too heavily.

They recommend two very light coats of RR with plenty of time in between coats to allow for each coat to fully penetrate and dry. I have follow up question with them on how to remedy this problem once the RR has been over-applied. I will update the group as I get their responses.
 
rightcarstuff said:
The largest source of wax and other items would be from automatic/touchless car washes where the high pressure jets spray soap, water, and wax onto the panels.  I did receive word back from CarWorx as well.  They said that see the issues with flaking, fading, and splotching (if that is a word) comes with overapplication of the RR product, especially with multiple coats of RR applied too heavily.

They recommend two very light coats of RR with plenty of time in between coats to allow for each coat to fully penetrate and dry. I have follow up question with them on how to remedy this problem once the RR has been over-applied. I will update the group as I get their responses.
Thanks  :wave:
 
that's awesome....atleast I don't feel like im going crazy with this!  :laugh:    Also, maybe you can find out what is the best way or how to apply those "light" coats.  I've been using a soft cloth and just rubbing it on...and not to the point of it dripping..but made sure it was evening applied.
 
I've had good luck with a wax applicator.  Probably doesn't hold as much product as your soft cloth.
 
I take one of those dog-bone car washing sponges and cut it in half.

I only have bed panels and some trim, no lower cladding or sails.

Never had a problem like those mentioned by others.
 
EXT4ME said:
I take one of those dog-bone car washing sponges and cut it in half.

I only have bed panels and some trim, no lower cladding or sails.

Never had a problem like those mentioned by others.
this is how I apply RR to my cladded 02.  the sponge really helps absorb any excess product and the sponge can be cut into about 8 different pieces so if they get dirty while applying just grab a different one! plus you know have an extra microfiber cloth for detailing with!
 
i used a small sponge type thing with a cloth around it that i bought at autozone... seemed to work goo and lasted a year
 
Thats my current theory as well...thanks for checking with Carworks.

If they come up with something other than goof off Id be interested in knowing...I just bough 1 gallon of goof-off...I love it!

My next app of RR I planning on doing a light coat and wipe the excess off with a non-shedding microfiber cloth, wait 24 hours and apply a second coat.

As to the question earlier of wax build-up - car washes...and its been my experience that dawn and simple green dont work good to remove baked-on wax...wax by its nature is designed to resist being removed, not to remove easily with a detergent. Most waxes actually dissolve or remove the easiest with...wax.

A few other forums with other trucks with plastic had some success using WD-40 to clean off residual waxes, and then use dish soap to remove the WD-40.

Wont help me...I need to remove the RR that I over-applied, and thats probably going to require power wash plus the goof-off or whatever else RightCarStuff discovers might help.

rightcarstuff said:
The largest source of wax and other items would be from automatic/touchless car washes where the high pressure jets spray soap, water, and wax onto the panels.  I did receive word back from CarWorx as well.  They said that see the issues with flaking, fading, and splotching (if that is a word) comes with overapplication of the RR product, especially with multiple coats of RR applied too heavily.

They recommend two very light coats of RR with plenty of time in between coats to allow for each coat to fully penetrate and dry. I have follow up question with them on how to remedy this problem once the RR has been over-applied. I will update the group as I get their responses.
 
Hello Az Dave....long time no see... It's good to see you are still in here schooling the young ins about RR...i remember way back when when I was a young in...lol and I had just gator backed my 05 and it was stolen 20 days after I purchased her. Then received my 04 and was about to do the something until I saw the RR just u did....lol seems like yesterday...
Now....my question is...I still have the first bottle of RR that I purchased back them (0:cool: hadn't used it..so should I use it or just purchase another with newer shelf life.....?  Please chime in also Mr. Rightcarstuff...and anyone else for that matter...

Thanks all.
Deephi
 
Per CarWorx, the shelf life of RR is about 2 years in ideal conditions. After that, the resin begins to separate from the solvent and you may begin to see inconsistent applications and results.  If it was a few years old, I would say test it out.  Since it's about 5-6 years old (probably the 1L can), I would definitely say buy some new, fresh RR. If you do, remember to use referral code: CAFCNA at www.therightcarstuff.com for some % off of your order.
 
I have to agree...1-2 years, maybe almost 3 yrs and Id think its ok...but 5-6 yrs, I wouldnt...for the same reason old paint separates out and becomes useless.

Maybe ok to use on other crap around house :) but not the beloved Avy :)
 
my before pics wouldn't have been very good since the r&r from last time was just starting to fade... but heres after I put it on 2 weeks ago  :love:

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Is there still a discount using CAFCNA? Just ordered some, and didn't get discount.
 
What if the bedlining doesnt really bond very well to the plastic cladding and cracks or peels like a lot of people who tried Gatorback had issues with?

Just wondering?

09chevyavy said:
I have decided I am just gonna get mine bedlined, along with the rear tail gate and also the walls of the bed
 
What if the bedlining doesnt really bond very well to the plastic cladding and cracks or peels like a lot of people who tried Gatorback had issues with?

Just wondering?
 
arizona-dave said:
What if the bedlining doesnt really bond very well to the plastic cladding and cracks or peels like a lot of people who tried Gatorback had issues with?

Just wondering?
bed liner will work very well if the cladding is removed, cleaned, sanded, and prepped, just like a truck bed would be, then encapsulated (sprayed on all sides) then re-assembled. the encapsulation is critical to any spray-on liner adhering properly.
 
Doesnt sound fun :)

fatkrak said:
bed liner will work very well if the cladding is removed, cleaned, sanded, and prepped, just like a truck bed would be, then encapsulated (sprayed on all sides) then re-assembled. the encapsulation is critical to any spray-on liner adhering properly.
 
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