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Rolled Over Avalanche.
- Thread starter BIGRED_Z-71
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WOW.
I'm really glad that you two are OK. Your story sounds pretty bad and the pics seem to tell the story.
That is pretty strange that the side airbags didn't go off. I'm pretty sure that we don't have the "curtain" airbags, but the ones in the seat? I suppose they're for a direct impact in the side but seems like it would still be good to have go off in a rollover. I wonder too how OnStar knew to call you...since no airbags went off.
Anyway...glad you're OK. The truck can be fixed but glad to see it kept you safe!
EQ
I'm really glad that you two are OK. Your story sounds pretty bad and the pics seem to tell the story.
That is pretty strange that the side airbags didn't go off. I'm pretty sure that we don't have the "curtain" airbags, but the ones in the seat? I suppose they're for a direct impact in the side but seems like it would still be good to have go off in a rollover. I wonder too how OnStar knew to call you...since no airbags went off.
Anyway...glad you're OK. The truck can be fixed but glad to see it kept you safe!
EQ
Big Red, WOW!
I thought you did some damage while on the Wild West trip, but man!
Just like to say I'm with everyone else in saying that we're all glad to see you two came out of this.
Get well soon, get the AV back on the road too, and take it easy on rainy days from now on!
I thought you did some damage while on the Wild West trip, but man!
Just like to say I'm with everyone else in saying that we're all glad to see you two came out of this.
Get well soon, get the AV back on the road too, and take it easy on rainy days from now on!
G
got_change
GUEST
big red, bad news av hurt, good news, you did not get hurt bad!!
I lost my first car, a 57 chevy,5300(back then it was a 327... to a tree, on a rainy morning, going to school.
the headlights touched each other, around the tree, and ever since, driving in the rain is a little spooky!
You did the av club a service, by posting pics, and your story, and if just one of us is a little more careful, in the rain, it will be thanks to you and your story.
did not want to see pix posted of hurt av, but had to look.
get right back on the av horse, now, once you get thrown off, just get right back on.
hey we all are waiting for new pix of finished repairs, or new av you get...
I lost my first car, a 57 chevy,5300(back then it was a 327... to a tree, on a rainy morning, going to school.
the headlights touched each other, around the tree, and ever since, driving in the rain is a little spooky!
You did the av club a service, by posting pics, and your story, and if just one of us is a little more careful, in the rain, it will be thanks to you and your story.
did not want to see pix posted of hurt av, but had to look.
get right back on the av horse, now, once you get thrown off, just get right back on.
hey we all are waiting for new pix of finished repairs, or new av you get...
Avalanche_chick
Full Member
Hey Red,
Glad to hear you and your girlfriend are doing well, but I'm sure by the time you read this post the two of you will really be feeling that accident in your muscles. I was in a 45 mph head-on collision on March 29, 2002. Believe my when I say I know what your going through. My advice to you is don't focus on the accident and get back in a truck and drive as soon as possible. I was scared to drive for about 2 weeks. Having an accident were the outcome could have been different really can way heavy on your shoulders. Post traumatic stress syndrome is something you may or nay not develop.
As a trauma RN I know the devistation an accident can cause, take your time with your recovery.
RN
PS
FYI: Airbags are designed to deploy with an impact, to prevent what is called a coup-contracoup injury. In other words, it prevent your head violently thrusting forword and back or left and right with curtain airbags. Had the airbag gone off with this accident, the outcome may not have been favorable because instead of preventing an injury, the airbag would have cause an injury. The airbag would have deployed and thrust you in some wild direction causing injury. In this roll over you seatbelts (I assume) prevented serious injury.
Moral Of The Story: BUCKLE UP
Glad to hear you and your girlfriend are doing well, but I'm sure by the time you read this post the two of you will really be feeling that accident in your muscles. I was in a 45 mph head-on collision on March 29, 2002. Believe my when I say I know what your going through. My advice to you is don't focus on the accident and get back in a truck and drive as soon as possible. I was scared to drive for about 2 weeks. Having an accident were the outcome could have been different really can way heavy on your shoulders. Post traumatic stress syndrome is something you may or nay not develop.
As a trauma RN I know the devistation an accident can cause, take your time with your recovery.
RN
PS
FYI: Airbags are designed to deploy with an impact, to prevent what is called a coup-contracoup injury. In other words, it prevent your head violently thrusting forword and back or left and right with curtain airbags. Had the airbag gone off with this accident, the outcome may not have been favorable because instead of preventing an injury, the airbag would have cause an injury. The airbag would have deployed and thrust you in some wild direction causing injury. In this roll over you seatbelts (I assume) prevented serious injury.
Moral Of The Story: BUCKLE UP
Avalanche_RN said:
intersting opinon, but just that. the issue of whether an airbag deployment would have prevented injury or caused additional injury is certainly ripe for various points of view, although the "airbag deployment would have caused even more injury" notion is a minority view at best. You are certainly entitled to it though. The seatbelt use guidance is certainly always spot on.
Glad that you and the GF were OK, it sounds and looks like it could have been alot worse.
I'm wondering, as they fix the vehicle, it seems like it would be next to impossible to "re-allign" (for lack of a better word) things as they were pre-collision in order to insure that the midgate fits when closed as it did prior to the accident, so as not to leak. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if an interior door to a home is the slightest bit off kilter, then it doesn't close properly, and how does one go about ensuring that it is done on an AV and there are no leaks after being repaired? Once a check is cashed with an insurance company, the claim is usually considered closed. So, watch yourself BIG RED when dealing with the insurance company.
Obviously the most important thing is that you and your girlfriend are OK, but when it comes time to settle the claim with your insurance company,... be carefull.
I'm wondering, as they fix the vehicle, it seems like it would be next to impossible to "re-allign" (for lack of a better word) things as they were pre-collision in order to insure that the midgate fits when closed as it did prior to the accident, so as not to leak. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if an interior door to a home is the slightest bit off kilter, then it doesn't close properly, and how does one go about ensuring that it is done on an AV and there are no leaks after being repaired? Once a check is cashed with an insurance company, the claim is usually considered closed. So, watch yourself BIG RED when dealing with the insurance company.
Obviously the most important thing is that you and your girlfriend are OK, but when it comes time to settle the claim with your insurance company,... be carefull.
yeah it looks to be a very long road ahead of me until she will be back again, it's sad too... i had added a ton of mods(k&n, usa flag z-71 stickrs, mountain avalanche logos on the pillers, a photo of my girlfriend and i in the dash where the tranny gauge goes on the 2500, a spoiler...and much more) the week before, and that weekend i spent 5 hours cleaning her inside and out and she got wrecked the next day.
you have to feel sorry for the avalanche too
~BIGRED
you have to feel sorry for the avalanche too
~BIGRED
BIGRED_Z-71 said:yeah it looks to be a very long road ahead of me until she will be back again, it's sad too... i had added a ton of mods(k&n, usa flag z-71 stickrs, mountain avalanche logos on the pillers, a photo of my girlfriend and i in the dash where the tranny gauge goes on the 2500, a spoiler...and much more) the week before, and that weekend i spent 5 hours cleaning her inside and out and she got wrecked the next day.
you have to feel sorry for the avalanche too ?
~BIGRED
Dude....it breaks my heart to see those pictures. You obviously put a lot of time and money into that beast. I feel sorry for BOTH you and the AV.
But at least you walked away from it. That's testament to how stout these things are. It really looks like you could roll it back to the wheels and drive it home.
T
Talio
GUEST
Big Red,
Sorry to hear about your AV. But, glad to hear you and your girlfriend are ok. It also seems the truck did very well considering. Wow! Thank God.
Talio
Sorry to hear about your AV. But, glad to hear you and your girlfriend are ok. It also seems the truck did very well considering. Wow! Thank God.
Talio
Eddie,
Glad to hear you guys are allright. After I saw the topic and the poster I really didn't want to open it and read for fear of something even worse. I am very relieved you two are OK.
After everything we have done together in the AVs, it is surprising that some rain and oil took you out. Just goes to show ya, you never know what the next moment might hold for you.
Heal quick and be ready for this spring and summerto meet up again and make some new trails through the woods.
Michael
Glad to hear you guys are allright. After I saw the topic and the poster I really didn't want to open it and read for fear of something even worse. I am very relieved you two are OK.
After everything we have done together in the AVs, it is surprising that some rain and oil took you out. Just goes to show ya, you never know what the next moment might hold for you.
Heal quick and be ready for this spring and summerto meet up again and make some new trails through the woods.
Michael
cid
Full Member
Glad to hear you and your girlriend are doing ok, honestly the car is replaceable, but as an owner, you feel bad about it because you let it happen to your baby.
The same thing happend to me recently, about a month or two ago, when it rained on Fri/Sat, first real heavy rain of the year, I was on my way home from BJ's in West Covina, and I skid out while making a turn, the car fishtailed, and then went over a 6" cinderblock wall, and went down 12" to someones yard. Avy landed on the front right wheel, tore it out of the suspension arm, ripped the mount points on the frame to shreds, and bent the frame itself. The car was actually on its side, but at a lesser angle, resting for the most part on the right wheel. Sorry no pictures, but I was less than a mile from home, at 1am on a raining Friday night, so no camera.
Insurance quoted it at $13k worth of damage. But it was frame/suspension damage for the most part, engine and all else was fine.
Car has been gone a month already, and is looking at another 2-3 weeks because the shop I took it to was so busy. But the lesson learned was, that the avy is such a big heavy car, that driving in the rain, there is no traction at all with standard all terrain tires. When wet, I wouldnt even floor it, and I'd start to spin the back tires and fishtail very easily. My solution to this was to put on mud or greater traction tires so it doesnt skid out so easily if at all.
The same thing happend to me recently, about a month or two ago, when it rained on Fri/Sat, first real heavy rain of the year, I was on my way home from BJ's in West Covina, and I skid out while making a turn, the car fishtailed, and then went over a 6" cinderblock wall, and went down 12" to someones yard. Avy landed on the front right wheel, tore it out of the suspension arm, ripped the mount points on the frame to shreds, and bent the frame itself. The car was actually on its side, but at a lesser angle, resting for the most part on the right wheel. Sorry no pictures, but I was less than a mile from home, at 1am on a raining Friday night, so no camera.
Insurance quoted it at $13k worth of damage. But it was frame/suspension damage for the most part, engine and all else was fine.
Car has been gone a month already, and is looking at another 2-3 weeks because the shop I took it to was so busy. But the lesson learned was, that the avy is such a big heavy car, that driving in the rain, there is no traction at all with standard all terrain tires. When wet, I wouldnt even floor it, and I'd start to spin the back tires and fishtail very easily. My solution to this was to put on mud or greater traction tires so it doesnt skid out so easily if at all.
mmdavidw
Full Member
I guess we're a little spoiled here in Florida since we get rain all year long and don't really have the extra slick road problems. Not saying that there isn't a higher amount of wrecks in the rain than when it's not raining, because there are. From what I have observed, most wrecks here come from people that try and drive like it's dry, running into people that slow down when it rains.
But anyway, cid has a good suggestion that I will be doing on the next tire change. Especially if I move to New Jersey I will want something that puts a little more tread on the road and can better handle adverse road conditions.
I have the Z66 and its traction control kicks in and does a good job from keeping the tires from breaking loose. But there's not much it can do to keep the tires from sliding sideways, which I've had happen a few times... mostly on purpose to see how the truck would handle under certain conditions.
I had good results with my '91 Sonoma that was difficult to drive in the rain when I replaced its standard road tires with some tires more for dirt and rougher roads.
David
But anyway, cid has a good suggestion that I will be doing on the next tire change. Especially if I move to New Jersey I will want something that puts a little more tread on the road and can better handle adverse road conditions.
I have the Z66 and its traction control kicks in and does a good job from keeping the tires from breaking loose. But there's not much it can do to keep the tires from sliding sideways, which I've had happen a few times... mostly on purpose to see how the truck would handle under certain conditions.
I had good results with my '91 Sonoma that was difficult to drive in the rain when I replaced its standard road tires with some tires more for dirt and rougher roads.
David
From one RED to another, hang in ther big guy, so glad to hear the two of you are ok!!!
I feel your pain, as a matter of fact we all do. Following your posts we know how much you loved that Av.
In the end she took care of you the way you always took care of her........
I feel your pain, as a matter of fact we all do. Following your posts we know how much you loved that Av.
In the end she took care of you the way you always took care of her........
Bradburry
Full Member
As stated many times before, glad you're OK.
But my question is: how does a 17 year old afford a $35K+ truck is what I'm curious about
I'm a 30 year old doctor and I had to finance for 72 months to make the payments!!
What am I doing wrong here?!?!??!?
Chris
But my question is: how does a 17 year old afford a $35K+ truck is what I'm curious about
I'm a 30 year old doctor and I had to finance for 72 months to make the payments!!
What am I doing wrong here
?!?!??!?Chris
Chris Bradburry said:As stated many times before, glad you're OK.
But my question is: how does a 17 year old afford a $35K+ truck is what I'm curious about
I'm a 30 year old doctor and I had to finance for 72 months to make the payments!!
What am I doing wrong here
Chris
Part of it is not having $50k in student loans (yet).
I also had to finance mine for 72 months and now that I am out of work the payments are still too high!cid
Full Member
I'm a bit older than him but in the same boat as you, Just turned 23 the other day, and the avy is all mine, down and finance at 72/mo, my pride and joy so to speak. most people who are younger have a lot if not all given, but not all do. Us who work hard, no matter what age should be damn proud of what we have cause we KNOW that we work hard for it.
mmdavidw
Full Member
Being younger would probably be an advantage... possibly living at home, not having to pay rent or cable or phone or power, no wife and/or kids to pay for, etc.
David
David
cid said:
Her Here! I have never been given anything in my growing up and I have worked my butt off for everything I have owned. (I have owned Ferrari's and Mbenz's) now a house and my AV!
More power to anyone who has the resources available to them at a young age.
Eddie,
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Glad everyone is ok. Hope the restoration process is speedy.
Sorry to hear about your misfortune
. Glad everyone is ok. Hope the restoration process is speedy.I'm glad you're both ok. You can always replace the truck.
Best Wishes!!!
Best Wishes!!!
Hey Big Red,
Terrible news, but glad that you're both relatively ok. As said before, the AV looks in incredible shape for running up the median, rolling over and sliding back across the highway to the offramp. Heck, even the On-Star antenna was still attached. Must have been a freaky roll to pass over that unharmed. The rest of the truck looks in remarkably good shape considering the accident and what other vehicles have looked like after a roll.
I would have to say that the reason none of the airbags deployed is that I think they're all designed to sense a rapid deceleration in the direction that they are protecting (front or side). By the description of the accident, it sounds like Red fish tailed, ran up the median, and then rolled and slid across the highway to the off ramp. Since he didn't hit anything head on, or side swiped, I'm not surprised at all that the Air Bags didn't deploy. I'm not touching the "would have caused more damage" topic. As Jackalanche said there's LOTS of conflicting evidence and opinions about that. If they had deployed at the right time, they may have stopped you from bumping your head. Then again, if the passenger side one had gone off it may have caused some very serious neck injury to your girl who obviously walked away with only a small cut without it. Air Bags are great at slowing down objects that are flying toward them without too much damage. But fire one off with a stationary object (ie, your head) sitting in the air bag's path and the outcome isn't so rosy.
Terrible news, but glad that you're both relatively ok. As said before, the AV looks in incredible shape for running up the median, rolling over and sliding back across the highway to the offramp. Heck, even the On-Star antenna was still attached. Must have been a freaky roll to pass over that unharmed. The rest of the truck looks in remarkably good shape considering the accident and what other vehicles have looked like after a roll.
jackalanche said:
I would have to say that the reason none of the airbags deployed is that I think they're all designed to sense a rapid deceleration in the direction that they are protecting (front or side). By the description of the accident, it sounds like Red fish tailed, ran up the median, and then rolled and slid across the highway to the off ramp. Since he didn't hit anything head on, or side swiped, I'm not surprised at all that the Air Bags didn't deploy. I'm not touching the "would have caused more damage" topic. As Jackalanche said there's LOTS of conflicting evidence and opinions about that. If they had deployed at the right time, they may have stopped you from bumping your head. Then again, if the passenger side one had gone off it may have caused some very serious neck injury to your girl who obviously walked away with only a small cut without it. Air Bags are great at slowing down objects that are flying toward them without too much damage. But fire one off with a stationary object (ie, your head) sitting in the air bag's path and the outcome isn't so rosy.
Mud Terrain tires get LESS traction on wet slippery roads than AT models, not more. If you're worried about wet road traction then you should be comparing All Terrain tires to those made specifically to siphon off lots of water in wet conditions like perhaps a Wrangler RF-A ("Front Aquachannel and rear Traction Lug Channels provide excellent wet surface traction.") I'm sure other brands have good wet traction specific tires too, but figured I'd just point you to the one that's as similar as the stock Wrangler AT/S as possible.cid said:
Since they'll be replacing the mirrors, tell them to get you the power folding mirrors.
Glad you're okay. I bought my first Z71 when I was 23 and I loved it. Then two weeks away from paying it off I got rear ended and it was totalled. I almost cried
I would make sure there is no frame damage. Probably unlikely, but you don't want to get it back and realize that you're wearing out one tire over and over.
Glad you made it out okay.
Glad you're okay. I bought my first Z71 when I was 23 and I loved it. Then two weeks away from paying it off I got rear ended and it was totalled. I almost cried
I would make sure there is no frame damage. Probably unlikely, but you don't want to get it back and realize that you're wearing out one tire over and over.
Glad you made it out okay.