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Sail Panel LED'S (Simplified-instructions and details only please)

I had already wired my sail panel leds as running lights.  I wanted to turn them into stop/turn/running lights.  I used this pdf I got from here

http://chevyavalanchefanclub.com/cafcna/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21719.0;attach=106511


the pdf helped a lot as long as I was paying attention.  One thing I did notice about the pdf that wasn't correct for the tie in for the turn signal it says to tie into the brown wire.  That's not correct, brown is running lights, blue is turn on the turn and stop on the stop.  brown is running lamps on both and black is ground on both.


As far as not paying attention,  I built the diodes and resistors into a easy to splice package at my work bench in the garage.  I brought out the resistors and diodes all tied together out to the avy and proceeded to splice into the taillights.  I did the right side first.  I already had leds installed as running lights.  I located the correct wire tying the positive side of the panel leds and cut it.  I splice the single lead into that wire and then I had three splices to make with the other end.  I made my three splices and tested out my work on the right side.  Because the pdf had me splice the brown wire twice my running lights wouldn't work,  I figured out that the brown on the turn signal was running lights and I already spliced into that on the stop.  I switched my splice from brown to blue and it appeared all was functioning correctly.  I ran out of time and had to complete the left side the next day.

I did the left side exactly as I did the right after I figure out the blue vs brown.  I tested the turns by turning on the flashers and the brakes appeared to work.  We(the family ran an errand)  after getting in the avy and going home I realized that the turns didn't function the both flashed together regardless of what turn I turned on.  I came home and relooked at the pdf and realized the pdf called for a diode on all splices, for some reason I was only seeing one on each side. 

I had to splice in 4 diodes(luckily I had to by six)  the splices were easy.  I tested the new setup and it wasn't working I would turn on the turn signal,  one side worked the other didn't at all.  The side that  didn't work also flashed the third brake light.  I came to the conlusion that I biased the diode on the that turn wrong, I cut it out and flipped it around.

Now the turns functioned but one of the sail panel leds brake function didn't work, I figured out I biased the diode in that splice wrong too, I cut it out and flipped it and everything worked after that.

After lots of splicing that wasn't needed I have my stop/turn/running lights.  Bias your diodes as the pdf shows and use six diodes total and splice the blue wire on the turn signal and u should avoid the splice fest I did.
 
Link isn't working. Does anyone have a wiring diagram? I would like to do this mod with leds acting as stop/turn/running lights.
 
Mondo Condo said:
Link isn't working. Does anyone have a wiring diagram? I would like to do this mod with leds acting as stop/turn/running lights.

I sent you an email with the PDF.  (y)
 
Looks good!  Not sure if you will need the collars for them though.

https://www.oznium.com/led-holder#tech
 
I corrected the link


preotic said:
I had already wired my sail panel leds as running lights.  I wanted to turn them into stop/turn/running lights.  I used this pdf I got from here

http://www.chevyavalanchefanclub.com/cafcna/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21719.0;attach=106511


the pdf helped a lot as long as I was paying attention.  One thing I did notice about the pdf that wasn't correct for the tie in for the turn signal it says to tie into the brown wire.  That's not correct, brown is running lights, blue is turn on the turn and stop on the stop.  brown is running lamps on both and black is ground on both.
 
So I have installed the LED's in my sail panels a while back. Just hooked them up as running lights but now I'd like to tie them into my signals and brakes as well. I have a positive and a ground running down each sail panel and all 4 LED's on each side are tied to those two wires. My question is: do the resistors and diodes have to be at every single LED or can I place diodes and resistors at the end of my 2 wires where they tie into the running lights, signal and brake lines? See the attached pic for an example of what I'm looking for. If I can just have them at that location, what size diodes and resistors will I need? I don't want to tear my sail panels apart again an add diodes and resistors at every single LED. I am tying these into my trailer wiring if that makes any difference? Thanks for any help you can provide!

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You don't have to connect diodes and resistors at each LED. Just use the diagram you posted and it also tells you the size and part numbers.
 
I was wondering also what he was asking. When I did mine for the second time I used leds with builtin resistors. I just needed the diodes
 
MS03 2500 said:
I was wondering also what he was asking. When I did mine for the second time I used leds with builtin resistors. I just needed the diodes
You would still need an external resistor for the running/stop/turn to work wouldn't you?
 
Cool, thanks for the responses everyone... that diagram was actually a diagram that I drew showing my set up and where I wanted to place the diodes and resistors. I was guessing at the values based off of what I'd seen others use but I thought they had them at every single LED. Sounds like what I wanted to do will work! Just curious, tying the LED's into the turn signals won't cause the hyper flashing problem I've read about, will it? Guessing that's only if you replace the OEM style signal bulbs with an LED? I've just read that some folks warn about mixing LED's and regular style bulbs on the same circuit. Thanks for all the help, love this site!
 
This is the led I used, if you look at the picture you can see the resistor

www.ebay.com/itm/10-PCS-LED-5mm-PRE-WIRED-12-VOLT-WIDE-VIEW-ANGLE-RED-PREWIRED-12V-FLAT-/391381074128?hash=item5b202140d0:g:8xwAAOSwB4NWuK8Q


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In that diagram the resistors are to dim down the running lights. If you don't dim the running lights they will only flash during the day and at night they will all light up constant. With the resistor in there they should light up dimly with the running lights and flash brighter with the brake or turn signals.

Also, I would strongly suggest using from the trailer lights but make sure you fuse as close to the pickup location as possible. So if you have issues with your wiring you only loose your sail panel lights and not your trailer lighting.

You CAN pull directly from the tail lights but if you have separate brake and turn signals (like the 2002-2006 trucks) then you would need two more diodes for each side. I say that because I THINK maybe the newer trucks combined the brake and turn signals? not sure.

I am considering doing something like this but I might put some additional lighting either in the sail panels or in the brake light panel. So I can separate the running lights from the turn/brake lighting. I have looked at some lighting for motorcycles because they are about the right length and can be VERY bright...

Rodney
 
So I finally got them wired up last night... had to order the diodes online because my local Radio Shack didn't have any in stock. Came in the mail yesterday and I went to work soldering up pigtails with the resistors and diodes in them. Ran them to my trailer wiring and they work perfectly! Looks so much cooler having them come on with the brakes and flash with the signals. Lot more visibility! Thanks to everyone who chimed in with advice and knowledge. As easy as this mod is, it's funny you don't see more of them on the road... I've only seen one other Avy with them and he only had it tied to his signals... and it was 700 miles away from my home when I was on a trip. Crazy!
 
Still debating on how or if I want to do mine. Doesn't seem like they are that bright unless it is dark out. The trucks I saw at last years nationals with them were hard to see. I have heard complaints that it can be hard to see my lights on my LED tail lights. Although I have the all on mod done to mine.

Rodney
 
redheadedrod said:
Doesn't seem like they are that bright unless it is dark out.

I agree they aren't super noticeable in the daytime... if you know they are there, you see them but if you didn't, probably wouldn't notice. They are great at night though for extra visibility for sure.
 
That is one of the reasons why I posted this. Radio Shack lights are not very bright


MS03 2500 said:
This is the led I used, if you look at the picture you can see the resistor

www.ebay.com/itm/10-PCS-LED-5mm-PRE-WIRED-12-VOLT-WIDE-VIEW-ANGLE-RED-PREWIRED-12V-FLAT-/391381074128?hash=item5b202140d0:g:8xwAAOSwB4NWuK8Q
 
It's been a long time since I posted for help on this.  Sadly. I still have not had time or been able to do this yet.  Life is kind of funny that way. (Life has been put on hold for the past 2 years due to crushed vertebrae-soon surgery)  I do however have the LED's and the holders from Oznium, and an LOF I picked up off of ebay.  I see I forgot to order the diodes and resistors-so I have to do that yet.  I want them to work as running, brake and turn signal lights.  Why not?  Once I get all the parts, I hope to get this done before snowfall here in sunny MinneSNOWda.  If anyone wanted to lend a hand with this and downing some cold ones, I'd appreciate it.  :cheers:

Glad to be back on this site-sure did miss it. 
 
Will these work for the sail LEDs if i get the 6mm ones?

https://www.oznium.com/led-bolt?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=ocpm&utm_campaign=Facebook+Ongoing&utm_content=popular-oznium-products

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BooomerX said:
Will these work for the sail LEDs if i get the 6mm ones?

https://www.oznium.com/led-bolt?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=ocpm&utm_campaign=Facebook+Ongoing&utm_content=popular-oznium-products

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keep us updated, I have wondered the same
 
I'm curious do they have built in resistors or are you going to deal with wiring nonsense.
 
MS03 2500 said:
I'm curious do they have built in resistors or are you going to deal with wiring nonsense.
I used the 13mm for the "raptor" lights years ago and didn't do anything special to them
 
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