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farmguy

Silent Avalanche RIP
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A few weeks ago I put Xenon bulbs in the headlights of my AV. (80w lo, 100w hi) While I have enjoyed the increased visability, the mod paid for itself many times over this past weekend.

While driving the backroads of Southern Kansas (do they have anything else?) I came upon a herd of deer. Two large bucks had chosen the center of the road to fight it out. To make a long story short, I got all over the brakes and stopped no more than 10 feet short of them. Had I been relying on the OEM lights, I would no, doubt be replacing a great deal of the front bodywork today.

I stongly recommend this mod as a safety device. :B:
 
Do these Xenons cause safety problems to oncoming vehicles due to temporary blindness or distraction from the added brightness?
 
Additionally, has anyone added Xenon or other brighter bulbs to the back up lights? I could really use the help, since I can hardly see anything out the tinted rear window when backing up.
 
Do you have the xenon HID lamps or just bulbs. If they are bulbs where did you get them.
Thanks,
James R. :cool:
 
No offense to anyone ;), but the xenon "Ghetto blue" lights dont put more light on the road. Lets look at how that is. If you take a clear bulb, and put blue tint on it, you decrease the light output. Any color tint over any bulb decreases light. :0:. If you want, get stock bulbs, and drive around at night with those light blue sunglasses, same effect ;D. But then some companies increase the wattage to 80w or more. doing so may increase the light. But not more than stock, maybe on a good day, when it;s a full moon and lightning strickes, it may be brighter, but that could never happen. You will also melt your wiring harness over time or fry your switch :-[(I did and learned the hard way). The only way to increase your light output is with the real xenon hid headlights. there only 35w, but product much more light then any "ghetto" bulbs could. There was a test done with the blue bulbs on a bmw, it was showing as much as 80% less light output than stock :eek:. When you drive with your blue bulbs, your just filtering out the lower end of the color spectrum, thats why they appear more white. If you guys go to www.overboost.com and search for the great headlight test, you should see what i mean. Hope this helps you guys out for future reference.
frank
 
ultravorx said:
No offense to anyone ;), but the xenon "Ghetto blue" lights dont put more light on the road. ?Lets look at how that is. ?If you take a clear bulb, and put blue tint on it, you decrease the light output. ?Any color tint over any bulb decreases light. :0:. If you want, get stock bulbs, and drive around at night with those light blue sunglasses, same effect ;D. But then some companies increase the wattage to 80w or more. ?doing so may increase the light. ?But not more than stock, maybe on a good day, when it;s a full moon and lightning strickes, it may be brighter, but that could never happen. ?You will also melt your wiring harness over time or fry your switch :-[(I did and learned the hard way). ?The only way to increase your light output is with the real xenon hid headlights. ?there only 35w, but product much more light then any "ghetto" bulbs could. ?There was a test done with the blue bulbs on a bmw, it was showing as much as 80% less light output than stock :eek:. ?When you drive with your blue bulbs, your just filtering out the lower end of the color spectrum, thats why they appear more white. ?If you guys go to www.overboost.com and search for the great headlight test, you should see what i mean. ?Hope this helps you guys out for future reference.
frank

I have to sort of respectfully disagree. If you buy cheap bulbs than yes, you are 100% correct that the blue tint on the bulb to simulate a "HID" look actually doesn't put added light to the road. Also you are correct that the added load of going to 80 or 100 watts (almost double the 55 watts on the lows) is bad long term for the wiring as it wasn't designed to take those kind of loads. HOWEVER - there are replacement wiring harness you can buy that will take the load, so options are available.

Also there have been independent tests done with the Sylvania Silverstar bulbs and they do put 30% more light on the road. The light they produce is a whiter, "hotter" light and there is a noticable impact on improved output without raising your wattage. The biggest impact I've seen with the Silverstars is two fold. Improved lighting under poor conditions like rain and fog at night with reduced reflection. And secondly vastly improved visibility at a distance, especially hitting reflective signs.

The bottom line is there are low cost solutions for improved lighting without spending hundreds of dollars on a HID system. However you are 100% correct that buying a $10 pair of blue tinted 100 watt bulbs is probably not the best answer.

I do agree with the original poster on this. Changing out your stock headlamps to a higher output bulb, what ever option you choose, as well as checking alignment from time to time is one of the best safety improvements you can make, especially if you drive in a rural area. A few rainy nights a go my Silverstars caught a group of kids running across a darkened road - I don't even want to think about the consequences without the improved lighting.

Another recommendation I would make is going with 899 or 885 fog lamps from Sylvania. The 38 or 50 watt bulbs respectively won't damage the housing, lenses, or wiring harnesses and provide a major benefit. The 899 are grey tipped and are a true "fog" lamp so if you live in an area with a lot of fog and/or snow that is probably your better bet - less reflection off of the light. The 885 is more of a "driving" light and is better if you live in suburban or urban areas or areas that don't get a lot of snow/fog. The stock wattage on the fog lamps is 25 watts - which when compared to the Ford which uses 9007 50 watt bulbs - it's a HUGE difference!

Hope this helps!
 
I have to agree CHIEF.
I bought the Hyper whites xenon bulbs and ran them for about 2 months. On the highway where the road is gray it worked ok and seemed a little brighter. When i got on the back roads going to the docks where most of the roads are dark, almost black i could not see well at all.
I gave the hyper whites to a kid in the neighbor hood that had a little Honda all dressed up and he thought it was cool. Came back a few days later and said he could not see that well with them either. These were the hyper whites xenon with the higher wattages. Not the cheapest ones that you can find.
I have changed over to all silver stars and with these i can tell a difference in the color of light as well as seeing better in inclement weather. heck south louisiana is inclement..........
I give the silver stars a (y) when it comes to improving vision without going all out with HID's.
My .02 cents worth........ Not casting any stones, just my experience with them. There may be some better like the PIAA, but i am not spending 75 dollars a pair when i can get the silver stars for 30 a pair with the rebate.
ZEE-YA
 
While looking for some new stuff for my AV, I came across a new website tonight with accessories and parts for all kinds of trucks. The section for the AV had a whole bunch of different accessories including some HID kits which looked really nice and a nice set of offroad driving or fog lamps that have a remote control, so that no wiring needs to be put into the cab. These I found really interesting.
http://www.eautoworks.com/html/sport_utility.cfm

-James R. :cool:
 
I have a 98 BMW 328I. I have installed the higher wattage blue lights.. I would ensure that they are from a reputable company. I have now burned up the wiring on the driver side.. Not good.. So ONLY HIDS for the AV
 
not sure if this is the right place to post this question, but i couldn't find a thread anywhere else. how do you guys go about adjusting your lowbeams? i used to point the at the garage door, but now my driveway has to much of a grade to get the proper view. i have the silverstars and they seem to me to be brighter the stock, but they also seem to be shooting straight out a little too much, not down on the road. i was driving behind my buddy in a small honda the other night and he said 1 lamp was getting him in the mirror. any hints or tricks out there? thanks.
 
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