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Yes, I'm really heads down on the National Meet planning. Thanks to the folks at Affordable Adventures we have a Sioux guide for our history of the Sioux tour. The guide and Carol at Affordable Adventures will be working with me on the exact route. Also, we're going to have a Native American dance and music demonstration at the National Meet on Thursday night. It will be after dinner and before the dance and drinks.

Also, working with the Black Hills Four Wheelers it appears we will have instructors and guides for our four-wheel drive courses held on Wednesday and Friday. The Black Hills Four Wheelers have routes ranging from Class II to Class V+ through the area and I am working with them on arranging a Class I, II and III experience.
 
Sounds great Chief!

Now for us 4x4 newbees, is there a place to learn about those different classes you mentioned?

Keep up the great work!

 
Do a search in the 4x4 and Offroad forum. I know someone there posted a pretty comprehensive write up of what all the classes meant in a couple different ranking standards.
 
Class I - think dirt road that a Chevy Cavelier with bad springs could go up. ;D

Class II - think dirt road where you'll need 4WD from time to time, but a stock vehicle won't have any problems. :D

Class III - a lift kit and bigger rubber will help but a stock vehicle will be able to handle what's coming at it with a 4-Lo range. You'll use 4-Lo and you may use it a lot. You might damage your truck. Steep hills, some rock crawling, oozy mud, deep sand. :)

Class IV - you'll need a lift and bigger rubber, not for novices, you will probably damage your truck. Really steep hills, deep mud, rock crawling. :cautious:

Class V - you'll need lots of lift, front and rear lockers, low low gears, lots of horsepower and big rubber. You WILL get stuck. You WILL damage your vehicle, possibly a lot of damage. This is only for the very experienced. You'll be driving up cliffs, over boulders, through quick sand, water over your hood - you know defying death at every turn. :eek:
 
zukracer said:
Sounds great Chief!

Now for us 4x4 newbees, is there a place to learn about those different classes you mentioned?

Keep up the great work!

pdxkevin said:
First off - I am thrilled to know that another AV is going to get out and stretch its legs on the trails. Let's see about answering some of your questions...

Don't go off-roading alone. It is a sure way to get stuck. If you don't have any buddy's with 4wheeler willing to go, find a local 4x4 club and go on a run with them. Where to find a club in your area? Here is a start.

As far as basic off road equipt., here are some great, (and over the top) check lists.
And searching back through the posts I dug up 4x4 101. It has some great info you should know before you go. Oh here is a one that should be a must. (you will probably bookmark it so you can read it all).
 
Thanks to all for the info :D

HMMM.....2000 miles from home....me thinks class II might be the safe choice at the nationals for me :-[

But I am up for watchin someone else do some V's >:D
 
I'd love to tackle some 4's and 5's on my Rincon ATV. Can we open this up for other forms of wheeled vehicles? Maybe a separate run for non-street-legals?
 
I agree, ATVs? The 5 inch Drop don't do well "off road" But I'd bring an ATV?? What's the restrictions? How many are bringing ATVs?
 
We're bring four, old suzuki king quad, Honda 2wd fourtrax, Kawasaki prairie and Grizzly 660. Looking forward to seeing the Rincon!
 
Well I'm not the bringer of glad tidings. It seems our 4-wheel drive guides/instructors have dropped out. The reasons cited by them:

1) Liability to their club and their insurance not covering the activity (and you think I'M uptight!)

2) Because it was on a weekday it would be hard for someone to take the day off to support us (ummmm, we did offer to pay).

3) Want the real slap in the face - seems the Toyota 4Runner club is there the same week and there will be around 100 Toyotas in the area and we should really leave the trails open for them.

Point - three - you've got to be ^$@!#^%@!$ kidding me! There is well over 300,000 acres of National Forest around there and I'm sure we can be in different places from the Toyotas and if we crossed paths - I'm sure we could play nice.

Sadly I think the real issue is the Avalanche as an off-road vehicle is being snubbed.

Ugh - back to square one on this issue.
 
Chief,

There is enough off-road saavy people going that if someone could get maps maybe something could be planned through the club with club members.

Just an idea...

 
flynhigh said:
Chief,

There is enough off-road saavy people going that if someone could get maps maybe something could be planned through the club with club members.

Just an idea...

That's what I'm thinking. The issue is scouting the route - remember what happened to us in the Shasta NF relying on USGS maps. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No this way, no wait a minute that way, no it could be this way. Gads I felt like "Rabbit" in the movie Twister driving through the corn field...
 
I've sent the following message to the Off-Road Rider Association in SD:

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The Chevy Avalanche Fan Club is holding our National Meet in Rapid City at the end of July. Many of us are going to bringing our quads, and are looking for some good places to ride. At this point, there are a few 4x's and a few 2x's. If anyone in your org would be willing to act as a paid guide for one or more day rides, please let me know.

Also, there will likely be a LARGE number of people who want to take their Av's off-road. If you know of an off-roader with experience with long-wheel-base runs in that area, the same offer would apply.

Thanks!
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We'll see what they say.
 
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