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How does the locker work?

maw05

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I was off road this morning behind my house and i had the av crossed up on several occassions and the locker never kicked in. I tried holding the brake and gas at the same time, no brake, 4hi, 4lo, nothing would make it lock. Whats the deal?

2002 1500 Z71
 
Locking Function


Locking action occurs through the use of some special parts:

A governor mechanism with 2 flyweights
A latching bracket
The left side cam plate and cam side gear


When the wheel-to-wheel speed difference is 100 RPM or more, the flyweights of the governor will fling out and one of them will contact an edge of the latching bracket. This happens because the left cam side gear and cam plate are rotating at a speed different, either slower or faster, than that of the ring gear and differential case assembly. The cam plate has teeth on its outer diameter surface in mesh with teeth on the shaft of the governor.

As the side gear rotates at a speed different than that of the differential case, the shaft of the governor rotates with enough speed to force the flyweights outward against spring tension. One of the flyweights catches its edge on the closest edge of the latching bracket, which is stationary in the differential case. This latching process triggers a chain of events.

When the governor latches, it stops rotating. A small friction clutch inside the governor allows rotation, with resistance, of the governor shaft while one flyweight is held to the differential case through the latching bracket. The purpose of the governor's latching action is to slow the rotation of the cam plate as compared to the cam side gear. This will cause the cam plate to move out of its detent position.

The cam plate normally is held in its detent position by a small wave spring and detent humps resting in matching notches of the cam side gear. At this point, the ramps of the cam plate ride up on the ramps of the cam side gear, and the cam plate compresses the left clutch pack with a self-energizing action.

As the left clutch pack is compressed, it pushes the cam plate and cam side gear slightly toward the right side of the differential case. This movement of the cam side gear pushes the thrust block which compresses the right-hand side gear clutch pack.

At this point, the force of the self-energizing clutches and the side gear separating force combine to hold the side gears to the differential case in the locking stage.

The entire locking process occurs in less than 1 second. The process works with either the left or right wheel spinning, due to the design of the governor and cam mechanism. A torque reversal of any kind will unlatch the governor, causing the cam plate to ride back down to its detent position. Cornering or deceleration during a transmission shift will cause a torque reversal of this type. The differential unit returns to its limited-slip function.

The self-energizing process would not occur if it were not for the action of one of the left clutch discs. This energizing disc provides the holding force of the ramping action to occur. It is the only disc which is splined to the cam plate itself. The other splined discs fit on the cam side gear.

If the rotating speed of the ring gear and differential case assembly is high enough, the latching bracket will pivot due to centrifugal force. This will move the flyweights so that no locking is permitted. During vehicle driving, this happens at approximately 32 km/h (20 mph) and continues at faster speeds.

When comparing the effectiveness of the locking differential, in terms of percent-of-grade capability to open and limited-slip units, the locking differential has nearly 3 times the potential of the limited-slip unit under the same conditions.

 
good info. I may have misstated my question though. I fully understand how locker in general operate. Im just unsure as to why mine isnt functioning. Am i correct when I assume that my Z71 has the G80 locking differential? If so is there something im doing wrong? the locker desnt seem to be functioning.
 
Are you sure you the wheel-to-wheel speed difference was 100 RPM or more  ???
 
definitely. as a matter of fact, i crossed a ditch diagonally on purpose just to lift the drivers side rear tire. I cape to a complete stop. then eased my foot off the brakes and i was watching the drivers side tire spinning at idle. Then i bumped the gas, the wheel just went faster. Not even the slightest sign of the other wheel getting any power. my passenger was watching his side and said the rear tire was firmly planted and not moving. I think i may have got shafted from the factory.  :E:
 
The locking differential on my 2003 is awesome.  Many mornings I have to back into the wet grass to get turned out of my driveway.  I will get a little wheel spin on one side for a moment.  You can hear the click of the differential locking and off I go!  Hadn't tryed it on my 07 but I hope it works just as well.
 
maw05 said:
definitely. as a matter of fact, i crossed a ditch diagonally on purpose just to lift the drivers side rear tire. I cape to a complete stop. then eased my foot off the brakes and i was watching the drivers side tire spinning at idle. Then i bumped the gas, the wheel just went faster. Not even the slightest sign of the other wheel getting any power. my passenger was watching his side and said the rear tire was firmly planted and not moving. I think i may have got shafted from the factory. :E:
the factory lockers only work if both tires are touching the ground, if one tire is in the air it wont engage. Its supposed to be a safety mechanism.
 
Locking Differential Diagnosis

1. Place the vehicle on a frame-contact hoist, allowing free rotation of the rear wheels.

2. Hold 1 wheel stationary. Slowly rotate the other wheel approximately 1/2 revolution per second in both the forward and reversed directions. The wheel should rotate freely. The differential is locking and is broken if both wheels attempt to turn together.

3. Raise the hoist to maximum height with 1 person in the vehicle.

4. Start the engine. Ensure that the engine is operating at low idle speed (warm engine).

5. Apply the service brake. Place the automatic transmission in drive. Depress the clutch and place the transmission in first gear with a manual transmission.

6. Lock 1 rear wheel by pulling one parking brake cable from under the vehicle with the aid of an assistant.

7. Release the service brakes or disengage the clutch slowly enough to start the free wheel turning. The locked rear wheel remains stationary.

8. Increase the speed of the free wheel. The differential will lock, causing the rotating wheel to stop or both wheels to turn at the same speed. The engine, if equipped with manual transmission, may stall. In order to cause the differential to lock, you may need to accelerate the engine until approximately 16 km/h (10 mph) is indicated on the vehicle speedometer. If the indicated speed can be increased beyond 32 km/h (20 mph) without causing the differential to lock, the unit is not functioning properly. Rapid release of the brakes or clutch, or rapid acceleration of the engine, will invalidate the test.

9. Lock the opposite rear wheel and repeat the procedure.


 

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NorthFace35 said:
the factory lockers only work if both tires are touching the ground, if one tire is in the air it wont engage. Its supposed to be a safety mechanism.
this may be a silly question but...how does the truck know if both tires are on the ground? seems to me it wouldnt make sense to have a locker set up with a saftey like that, after all isnt that 1 of the reasons we opt for one?
 
It's not a locker if it doesnt "lock" both axle shafts together. This thing sounds to me more like the infamous trac-loc diff's they used to put in jeeps. A limited slip AT BEST. Im not impressed with this G80 crap at ALL....  :8:
 
maw05 said:
It's not a locker if it doesnt "lock" both axle shafts together. This thing sounds to me more like the infamous trac-loc diff's they used to put in jeeps. A limited slip AT BEST. Im not impressed with this G80 crap at ALL....? :8:
sounds to me that you got a bad one. you can tell when mine kicks in, between the added traction and the clunk that it makes, theres no mistaking it.
 
check in glove box for G80 code to ensure you have locker from Factory.

And did you buy used?
 
The only problem I ever experienced was it would not immediately un-lock and it would hop around the next turn on pavement :mad:
 
ygmn said:
check in glove box for G80 code to ensure you have locker from Factory.

And did you buy used?

G80 code is there in the list of other codes.
We bought it brand new from City Chevrolet in OKC in 2002.
 
Did you do the steps in reply #7 ?
 
No not yet. I havent had a chance. I will try to get on it ts afternoon. Ill have to have my roommate to help me.
 
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