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MODDING NIGHTMARE!!!

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This morning I posted a new topic where I thought we could share our experiences with Parts Vendors, both good and bad - so we could both help each other find the good ones, and avoid the ones that were not up to par. ?HOWEVER, I shared a very positive experience about a company ... ?but since they are not a site sponsor, my post was ruled "advertising" and it was deleted. ? :cautious:

TO CLARIFY, we ARE permitted to mention company names in threads that are talking about a specific mod ? (y) , but we cannot set up a thread like I had intended. :cautious: I now understand that IT IS OK to mention company names that performed BELOW par, site sponsor or not!

Originally, I posted this with the names omitted... (I misinterpreted the policy.) So, to make this easier to follow, the names have been reinserted!​


?FINALLY, the point of this topic:


September 1st : From TByrne Motorsports, I ordered Volant Intake, Direct Hits, and HPP3 (Had to special request # 30012 for the 8.1, as they only had # 30007 listed.)

9-2: Rec'd confirmation e-mail with partial order summary, and the following: "The HPP3 is a special order item and should be ready to ship in about 10 days." ?(Oh well, at least the other stuff will be here this week, I THOUGHT.)

Around 9-16: Volant Intake arrived! Box was tattered, had one strip of tape on top, and one on the bottom that was ripped open. UPS had to hand it to me upside down to keep items from falling out. ?Contents were scattered (like a box of junk at a flea market) with one balled up piece of brown paper for "padding." No major damage, other than some scratches on logos, and the air box lid. About 2 weeks, with no contact from TByrne.

Around 9-23: I called TByrne to ask where the rest of my order is. Julie said that the Direct Hits had shipped, and the 30012 HPP3 still had not come in.

Around 10-3: HPP3 arrives!! (More to this story below.)
Called TByrne to find out about the Direct Hits. Julie said they will ship it ASAP!

Around 10-9: Direct Hits arrives! Very loose in box - no packing material, had to re-set the spark plug gaps, but at least IT IS HERE! ?:D

10-15: FINALLY, some nice weather, so I decided to install everything! Volant: One hose is too short... other than that, no problems. Direct Hits: Plastic socket breaks (duh)... other than that, no problems. HPP3: Good thing this programmer is smart... I plugged it in, and it said "This is not the correct programmer for your vehicle!" ?:eek:
I looked at the box, and it was the 30007, not the 30012! ?:8: Called TByrne, too late, they were closed.

10-16: Called TByrne. ?Julie said that they will order the correct one for me again ... had no idea why the one I had ordered 6 weeks earlier had not arrived, or why I rec'd the wrong one. ALSO stated that I would need to return the wrong one to them at MY expense. ?:cautious:

Next week: I am ?:mad: , ?:7: , and ?:8: !
And, I started thinking "WHY should I pay to return the wrong HPP3...
it wasn't MY fault!" ?:D:

10-24: ?:0: I'll call TOM and tell him I am a CAFCNA member, and tell him what's been happening - he will get this straightened out ! ?(y) :D
So, I called for Tom. Waited about 10 minutes... he was still on another call. Left name & number, and he called back that afternoon. I told him the situation, and he was already familiar with my order. "Yours is just one of those orders" he said. ???? ?
I told him that it is going on 2 months, and I am tired of waiting, and that I didn't want to pay to return the wrong item that they sent. He said he would send UPS with a call tag on Mon or Tues, and they would pick it up at their expense! ALSO, he said that he would get me the right HPP3 ASAP, and that they would ship it OVERNIGHT to me as soon as it comes in! ? (y) ?OK - now we are talkin'... Tom is the man!

Next week: No UPS, no call tag, etc...

10-31: :D :D TByrne called ME ! ?:D :D
Another lady asks if I have sent the wrong HPP3 back yet. I told her of my conversation with Tom, and said that UPS had not come for it. I asked if my correct HPP3 had arrived yet. "Yes, it is here, but we have to wait until we get the other one back from you before we ship this one out." ?:7: ?I told her that Tom said he would ship it OVERNIGHT as soon as it arrived. She said she will confirm that with Tom and take care of it! ? :rolleyes:
So, I think "Should be here AT LEAST by Monday, worst case!"

11-1, Fri: Nope ? :cautious: ? ?(It has now been 2 months!) ?

11-2, Sat: Nope ? ?:6:

11-4, Mon: Nope ? ????

11-5, Tue: Nope ? ?:7:

11-6, Wed: Nope ? ?:8:
Called TByrne: ?I get a recording to this effect: 'We are all out of town at a Trade Show until next week. You can place an order online, or call us next week. ? :2:

Are you kidding me? ? :eek: ? :( ? :6: ? :cautious: ? :cry: ? :mad: ? :7: ? :8: ? :8: ? :8: ?

What happened to the overnight shipment Tom? Thought you were taking care of me? ?

Score: TBD
Depends on whether I get a $300 gift certificate, or the RIGHT HPP3 free of charge, or something along those lines. ? ?:rolleyes: ?

I hate to be difficult, but it has been well OVER 2 months now, and ????

The ironic part is TByrne's motto:
"EVERY SECOND COUNTS"
I misunderstood that... obviously the MORE seconds, the better... we are now at 5.74 MILLION seconds and counting... :6:



UPDATE:

Mrs Seven just came home. There on my front porch was one of those plastic bubble mailers... can it be??? ?YES, it is my HPP3! ?Is it the right one? Let's open it and see... what? What is this? It is soaking wet... how can this be? ?The mailer is sealed plastic. ??? Oh well... it IS the correct one!! The box is wet, but the contents are reasonably dry. ? No gift certificate... well, ya can't have everything.

It took 2 months, 4 days, and 17 hours to arrive, but it is really HERE !

WOO HOO !! ? :D ? :D ? :D


















 
Dude that sucks. If that was me I would have drove to the place and strangled them, you are much more patient than I am. Btw, how do you like the direct hits? is it work the $250?

Alex
 
Man, I tell ya...
it wasn't easy to handle! ?Made me NUTS! ?:2:

At least my Flowmaster was here in less than 24 hours!
(from a different company "^^^^^^ ~~~~~~"!) ?:rolleyes:

But, yes, I like the Direct Hits!
Noticed literally "instant" starting... like 1/10 of a second after you turn the key! Also, faster throttle response. ?Since I installed them about an hour after the Volant, it is tough to attribute the gain in acceleration "fairly" but together they made a substantial difference! ?And the Flowmaster I ordered
(50 Big Block with dual 3" inlets, dual 2.5" outlets, and 2 pipes out the back) sounds great with the 8.1, and helped performance as well!

 
Seven---------------
Great Idea!
Some places need to be bad mouthed, some praised

I had a similar experiance with a large S. California online wheel retailer
In early Feb 2002 I ordered 4/ 17" chrome wheels for my pontiac
Prior to placing the wheels I spoke to them by phone 3 times to confirm they were the right ones and in stock
I even called the wheel manufacturer to confirm the wheel were made in the correct size [GM requires 5 on 115mm]
Ordered Feb 4, told it takes 10-14 days
end of feb no wheels
Credit card charged on the 10th feb
was told they were waiting for chroming
by mid of march NO wheels
called/ told they were waiting for rivets
March end/ NO wheels
recalled /told they were shipped
April 14/ NO wheels
finaly about the 20th I got them/ WRONG ONES
5 on 4.5
Immediatly called and was told that I was responsible for 20% restocking and return shipping [WHICH IS THIER POLICY POSTED ON THE NET]
which equals $320+ on a $ 1299 purchase
called my credit card company to fight the charge
which they took off-------
Until they got a response from the company that is was a manufacturer error[bullcrapalony] then they put the charge back on the card
It took untill Aug end and three different faxed complaints before I got the charges removed and had to fight tooth and nail

Boy would I love to tell all, who that company is

 
Capecruis8der said:
Seven---------------
Great Idea!
Some places need to be bad mouthed, some praised

I had a similar experiance with a large S. California online wheel retailer...
It took untill Aug end and three different faxed complaints before I got the charges removed and had to fight tooth and nail

Boy would I love to tell all, who that company is

Thanks Cape...
suddenly I don't feel quite so bad... :2:

I really hate that for you -
they are SERIOUS jerks to charge a restocking fee for something that wasn't at all your fault!

I agree... we "need" to know who that company is!


 
Seven ... RE-READ my last PM to you

It's fair to mention vendors when you are discussing in a topic about that product.

The TOPIC you started and the format that you requested others to post ... with Vendor, Contact Name, Phone #, Website IS an Advertisement for all of the vendors listed and crosses the line for the NO Advertising policy...

So PLEASE go AHEAD and mention the COMPANY you are talking about BUT don't start a topic like the one above. ;)

Thanks.
 
Thanks for that Goo, I beleive that if a company treats us like crap and gives us horrible service we should let other AVers know so they won't wind up getting screwed.
I went to a muffler shop in the Bronx to have my Magnaflow installed, the moron takes the single out (on the mf), makes an adapter and goes back into 2 and back into 1 in the tailpipe, when I questioned him he says uh, uh this truck is to strong you need to do it this way.
 
No nightmares yet for me.
I've had multiple great experiences from Summit, as well as from our partners (UPD, billet grille, billet knobs, and others)
I've really only had 1 inconvience purchasing mods for the Av, and that was with Sounddomain. They tend to not be accurate with inventory levels when items are out of stock. Ordered a bunch of stuff, all which was listed as "in-stock". Some came in 3 days, some the next week, and 1 item took 2 weeks! :rolleyes:
 
goo929 said:
Seven ... PLEASE go AHEAD and mention the COMPANY you are talking about...
Thanks.

OK FOLKS, MY EXPERIENCE HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN UNCENSORED!

The company that I ordered the items from was TByrne.
Julie was the first person I had been talking to,
and Tom was the one I appealed to, and had expected to straighten everything out.

Although he did (eventually) pay for the return of the wrong HPP3, they did not ship the replacement until close to a week after they had it in their hands, despite Tom's assurance that it would be shipped Overnight, "immediately" after they received it from Hypertech.

Again folks, I hate to complain, but 2 months, 4 days, and 17 hours is completely, totally unacceptable!!!

 
SevenWondersoftheWood,,,

WOW!

I feel your pain... In all of my online ordering, I have had nothing but good luck when I articulate to the business in question, "I have been wronged, please help me..."

The supplier you mention although, is a surprise to me ... Considering my perceived "clout" he holds on this board, and Tom's involvement here with the AV community...

I hate to say it, but does anyone here think there could be any reasonable explanation for such service?

I would hate to think there wasn't some allowable explanation...

I think it would be prudent that if someone from TBYRNE views this thread, they attempt a detailed explanation, and massage the situation a little further with SevenWonders... Just my opinion...

It only takes a couple of these "mis-understandings" to hurt a viable business...

I may hold off on my AutoTap order with them now to see what transpires here...

SevenWonders, I hope this gets rectified on your behalf, and if you would like some recommendations on positive online aftermarket parts houses, I have a select few that have gone above and BEYOND the call...

11H
 
In all honesty, I thought it kind of stunk that we had to return the defective Superchips from the group buy to Tbyrne at our own expense. Thank God they waived the restocking fee!
 
It seems to me that one of the important aspects of CAFNA is our buying power as an organization. Even though we speak with seperate tongues we feed off of the experiences, good and bad, that other members have had with products and vendors.

One member wronged is one unhappy customer and the loss of HIS business.

One member wronged who posts the information, for the rest of us, is one unhappy customer, an informed
membership and the loss of THEIR business.

Thank you Wonder Wood!!!



 
You have a lot more patience than I have...You would have seen me on Judge Mathis or Judge Joe Brown..some junk like that ever happened.....kudos for keeping your cool... :B:
 
I understand your pain Seven, but in all fairness to Tom, I have ordered my Direct Hits, Superchips, TOG's from his company with no problems. My TOG's arrived with one of the extension pipes not coated and he immediately went to bat for me with The Other Guys, needless to say everything turned out okay. Once again sorry to here that you had a bad experience with TBYRNE. ???
 
I'm glad to hear its not just me that has had those kinds of experiences. It's important that these stories are heard and we are made aware of "not so good" transactions. I cant understand why the names were censored to begin with. Even if the outlet in question was a sponsor of the site, it's defeating the purpose of this board, squelches free speech, and hinders the ability for this site to help its members. A polished up, "sponsor safe" site isnt worth the weight of its code. Its good the truth was allowed to come out, it speaks volumes about this board.
 
Blue ... names were never censored. ?Just a little misunderstanding in my explaination of the site's "No Advertising" policy. ?Seven has it right now. ?

Read my earlier POST.

Carry on ?;)
 
Since we have the OK form the Higher-ups

The wheel co in CA that I got taken by is called
SalesCO
A big company with a nice site
After I was taken, I went to the CA/ Better Business Bureau
Found out they had a rap-sheet a mile long for Bait and switch issues and because they post thier policies on the web site, they can almost get away with it legally

Another Company I had a problem with is called
Aztekparts.com// AKA --Auto Truck toys.com
I was told they were going to do a
Avalanche parts.com
I was looking for a set of Manik Stainless Side steps for my AZ like I used on the AV
I have accounts with Wholesalers that said they stopped making them in Stainless
I even called Manik and the said NLA
This company assured me thay were doing something special [hense the name of thier site] with Manik and put my mind at rest
Ordered with them on Junel 7// they are custom made so 4-6weeks for delivery
charged $416 the next day
Well by July end-- no steps
called- was told 2-3 more weeks
Mid Aug --no steps
Called again---
OH, I'M SORRY THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANY MORE
Asked for a immeidate credit
By Aug end--No credit
called again. bookeeper on vacation
finnaly in Sept, I spoke to Bookeeper, credit was applied
Watched my Online CC acount-- NO REFUND
Again called-- sorry It was not appiled
Well they had my money for over three months
BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since I have not had a good year with Online Reatailers
MY best advise is to go to the BBB site in the state and city they are located PRIOR TO THE SALE, and do a search-- If they have negative sales tactics
You can expect problems
 
To all, I would like to say THANKS for your suport!
So I guess my disappointment ?is indeed valid...:rolleyes:

11H: ("Seven... ?I hope this gets rectified on your behalf, and if you would like some recommendations on positive online aftermarket parts houses, I have a select few that have gone above and BEYOND the call...") ?THANKS - that is something else we need!
I will have to e-mail you when I get a chance. ? (y)

atgr: My thoughts exactly. In my businesses, I occasionally make a mistake - it happens. But when it is my fault, I pay for the return shipping, send the correct item on the day that I become aware of the problem, and ALWAYS do something extra for them... an extra DVD for a DVD order, a Vase for a Wood Art order, etc..., or if nothing else, a generous "credit voucher" that they can use on their next purchase. That is just good business - and, since they were well aware of my sincerity, these folks have remained my loyal customers! ?(y)

dmacker: Very well stated - Thanks! ? ;)

NJAV: If I wasn't so busy arleady, I just might opt for something along those lines! ?(Better then going postal... ?:2:

8.1_HD: Good to hear! I am sure that they must (nearly always) be better than they were to me... I do not expect that they are a company that doesn't understand the value of having happy customers, but they have yet to prove that to me. ?:cautious:

BlueZ71: ?I share your thoughts! ?Also, I misunderstood the policy at the time of the post... I could have mentioned TByrne from the start in this thread, but my other idea (where I wanted to set up a thread dedicated to rating any and all companies that we have dealt with individually for the benefit of all of us) would have crossed the line in terms of the "No Advertising" policy. I wish there was a way around that, as I love the concept of that thread, but that type of thread would be very difficult to keep true to its intended purpose. ? :6:

goo: Thanks again for spending time with me on this... hopefully we will be able to come up with a way at some point... ?(y) ?
 
NJAV said:
You have a lot more patience than I have...You would have seen me on Judge Mathis or Judge Joe Brown..
But would we see you on Judge Judy? :eek: >:D

Seven, I am amazed that you were able to keep silent for so long. I for one would like to hear an explanation for the whole debacle as well. I am sorry that you have had to endure this.
 
I guess I will make the "announcement" ......


CAFCNA Members paging TBYRNE....,,,

CAFCNA Members paging TBYRNE.....

TBYRNE, this is Houston; we have a problem...


11H ;D
 
Steelheadchaser said:
But would we see you on Judge Judy? :eek: >:D
ONLY if she were thouroughly gagged, so she couldn't tell me what I was doing wrong! :rolleyes:

Steelheadchaser said:
Seven, I am amazed that you were able to keep silent for so long. I for one would like to hear an explanation for the whole debacle as well. I am sorry that you have had to endure this.

Steel: Thanks for your concern and support!

I was VERY tempted to post as things were (not) progressing, but I tried to be patient. THEN, when I was completely fed up, :0: I decided to give Tom a call, thinking he would correct the situation. I even told him that I planned to post this experience, but that I wanted to make sure that he personally was aware of it, so he would have the chance to make up for it in advance, and I would then be able to also post: "Tom to the Rescue!" Unfortunately, it just didn't happen... at least not yet. :rolleyes:
 
atgr,,,

In all honesty, I thought it kind of stunk that we had to return the defective Superchips from the group buy to Tbyrne at our own expense. Thank God they waived the restocking fee!


Actually, if what you say is true, TBYRNE could have, and should have contacted Superchips, and got an ARS re-imbursement agreement with them ... TBYRNE would have then sent you return labels via snail mail, and fronted the shipping costs, if they were in fact sent back through him. If they were sent back to SC directly, then SC should have issued the labels, and sent them to you ?....

Once all the units were verified returned to Superchips or him, Superchips could then have issued TBYRNE a credit for all defective unit's return labels ...

Basically, it comes down to what Superchips wants to do about you guy's problem... If it was in fact a defective product, TBYRNE could have leaned on them to cover return shipping costs ... If TBYRNE did lean on them, and they refused to cover return shipping labels, then it's not his fault, it's SC being frugal ... But, even if SC would not cover return labels, then TBYRNE has a moral desision to make... If SC will not re-imburse him for labels, then he has to go out on a limb and cover them himself... This was his choice to NOT do that, and that's fine, but when all is said and done, the customer has gotten the shaft, and in the SC instance, in many ways... It may have been a defecit for TBYRNE to foot return shipping, but considering the severity of the SC problem, I would have thought that would have been the ethical thing to do to continue a good relationship with the board... Besides, the cost of providing return shipping on as few units as were sold would have not affected his "bottom line" as much as some might think... That is if he is a high volume vendor...

The basis on which an aftermarket parts "middleman" can provide service, is based on his "relationship" with manufacturers, and wharehouses... If this relationship is a strong one, then return shipping labels become a "non-issue" ...

The fact that you all were required to pay return shipping puts an undue responsibility on your shoulders that should not have happened due to a faulty product beyond your control...

In my business dealings, I would have never asked the customer to pay return shipping... Especially since I would pay probably 40% less for the ARS label than you would for Consumer shipping ...

The online parts suppliers can protect their revenues, and deliveries to a certain extent, but when a faulty, defective, or improper product is delivered to a consumer, it has now become a liability to the .com you placed the order with, the wharehouse supplier, and/or the manufacturer... In any event, I say again, this impact felt by the order taker can be worked-through if they have a STRONG relationship with THEIR supplier... It defenitely should never fall on the consumer's shoulders to incur additional costs due to a problem beyond their control... There are steps that can be taken if this is a common practice with a .com supplier including BBB filings ...

Here's another scenario that I'm sure no one has considered...

You buy $800 worth of goods from a .com, and you receive goods in ?excellent condition... BUT, they are defective upon attempting installation... So, you call your .com and explain the situation, and they say, return items at your expense, and we will graciously WAIVE our re-stocking fee (Re-stocking fees in my view are created to discourage frivelous returns from the consumer, which waste valuable resources on the part of the .com /// If the return is a valid problem, and beyond the consumer's control, then the restocking fee should never be mentioned! And the fact that someone would say they waived the restocking fee for you, and you now have to pay return shipping because they met you half way is ludicrous, and poor business practice... sorry!) ?... Cool, you spend $45 on shipping and insure the package for the amount you spent... Package gets lost in transit, and who's gonna go through processing the claim? YOU ARE! You shipped it and assigned insurance in your name! (while the VISA accrues interest on the original purchase amount no less!)

Here's a worse one, let's say you didn't insure the package because you thought $45 shipping was un-fair in the first place... Well, package gets lost, and you are OUT THE WHOLE $845 ... Too bad so sad... Do you think the vendor is gonna sympathize with you? They'll say, "you didn't insure the $800 package sir, there's nothing we can do..." ? Then you say, "well, I thought it was unfair paying $45 for return shipping for a defective product; why should have I insured it for $20 more!!! when this was not my mistake!!!???" ? -- CLICK--- ?Uhhh, can you hear me now?

Now the scenario if your .com issues the return label:

Return label comes in mail, you verify it's info with your .com before shipping, and drop it off at a corporate UPS counter or hand it to a UPS driver, and he scans it into system as received... It is now, 100% un-arguably OUT OF YOUR HAIR... If it doesn't get there, it's NOT YOUR PROBLEM! You filled your obligation, as long as you can prove with documentation that you had the return label scanned ... Now, if the label issuer didn't buy insurance, it's on them... And you are still legally entitled to a refund for returned goods...

In short, if at all possible HAVE THE .COM ISSUE THE LABEL!!! EVEN IF THEY WON'T COVER RETURN SHIPPING FOR YOU (WHICH THEY WILL IF YOU PLAY IT RIGHT) EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO SEND THEM THE $$$ FOR THE LABEL, HAVE THEM ISSUE IT! THEN THE BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY IS LEGALLY ON THE LABEL ISSUER/UPS ACCOUNT HOLDER TO FILE THE INSURANCE CLAIM... NOT YOU, WHO HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE RINGER...

Let's say you don't get the return label, and the vendor has agreed to send it... You have waited a month, and they always say, the thing's in the mail sir... It never arrives...... Hopefully you paid with a Credit Card ... Contact your Credit Card company, and fill out a "Dispute" form concerning the original transaction... They will issue a temporary credit on your acct. to avoid interest charges unfair to you ... Then they will contact the .com's CC host company, and notify the subscriber about the dispute... The issue is now between say VISA, and .com ...

Ohh, but wait, if your Visa company gets the credit from the .com, and all's well, that's not all of it...

This is important::: Check the commerce laws in your state in regards to abandonment of goods ... If there is no stipulation in the Commerce law, then you revert to general state law as far as property abandonment ... If property is legally delivered to you, and the supplier has not arranged it's return in the legally stated amount of time as prescribed in your statutes, say 90 days, 60 days, bla bla.. You have legal rights to retain that merchandise per your location's abandonment statutes... I'm not trying to imply that this should be grounds for immoral behavior, but if you get your CC credited, and you have hounded them for a label, then let it go... If the label shows up in 5 months, you might have some legal precedent to allow retention of that merchandise... nuff said

11H

(Please don't take this post as literal or factual legal info ... It is based on my opinions and experience on the matter only ... It is not intended to become a reference for your actions ... Thanks folks)

 
11H said:
Here's a worse one, let's say you didn't insure the package because you thought $45 shipping was un-fair in the first place... Well, package gets lost, and you are OUT THE WHOLE $845 ... Too bad so sad... Do you think the vendor is gonna sympathise with you? ...

Funny (and sad) that you should mention that.

A few years ago, I bought a New Sony LapTop online. It arrived, but had a defective speaker. They were out of stock on the parts, and didn't have a replacement to send, so I was returning it to them for a refund, which they "blessed." Well, they even agreed to pay for shipping, so they sent UPS with a call tag. :)

My (then) secretary handed the package to the UPS driver, as I was with a client, and he didn't give her any receipt or tracking # or anything. When I asked her for it, and she told me she didn't get one, I just shook my head, and blew it off. :cautious: BIG MISTAKE!

About a month later when I didn't see any credit on my Credit Card account, I called Sony. They had not rec'd the LapTop, and had no record that they even sent UPS to pick it up. Well, after about 6 months of calling UPS and Sony repeatedly, neither of them would accept responsibility, and UPS could (would) not tell me who the driver was that day. :9:

Long story short, I was out $1700., and the UPS driver has a New Sony Laptop with a broken speaker! :8:

"Don't sweat the small stuff" can be a very BAD idea.

I learned my lesson, although I am still :7: :8: :7: ashell about the whole thing.
 
SevenWondersoftheWood

If everything was as you say, and I have no reason to doubt you, you were more than patience and were serviced very poorly. :8:

I have a small web store on yahoo. This is not a commercial for my company as I'm not going to mention it but just my opinion on how you should have been treated. :7:

Our web store generates only about 10% of our company?s sales but treat it very seriously. We ship all orders placed before 3PM from our warehouse or drop ship all orders the same day and keep an accurate inventory posted. We over communicate with our customers as they get an auto reply as soon as they order, then a hand typed e-mail thanking them for the order and telling them when it will ship and then an e-mail with the tracking number and when it will arrive. After that all of our customers are set an e-mail to rate our service.

From this Yahoo generates a service rating that they post on our company and the higher the service rating the higher you come up on a search. We have a 5 star rating and top placement on all the items on our site. If we don?t get an excellent rating from a customer I consider it a problem. In 2 years the worst rating we?ve gotten is two OK ratings. Believe me this rating system keeps us on our toes and the customer deserves nothing less.

When shopping on the web look for sites that publish service rating for all their orders, not just the good comments they save and post. The BBB on-line program (logo below) is also another thing to look for when selecting an on line merchant.


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Now I'll get off my soap box :-[
 
You know it's funny I just mentioned paying the return shipping to Tbyrne for the defective Superchips. Apparently I'm still feeling the effects of it. You see when I shipped the unit back I tried the option that UPS gives where you can pay by credit card on-line. It was really neat and even lets you print the shipping labels on your printer. When you do it you create an account that stores all your info for future shipments.

Anyway...I received a bill today from UPS for shipping for 6 packages from a plastics company in California to an Electrical supplier in Texas. The bill is for $97!!

You can bet I'll be getting UPS on the phone ASAP! If I hadn't created an account with UPS this wouldn't have happened. Of course, If I hadn't bought the defective Superchips none of this would have happened, either.
 
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