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Pinealanche?!? Pinewood Derby Avy

JoeSpicoli

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I've just been lurking lately, but not sitting idle:

I made a Pinewood Derby Avalanche to race in the open division this Saturday. I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it, only 3 colors and 3 coats of each color. Only a little sanding between coats. Certainly nothing to write home about but since it is an Avy, albeit a stretched/distorted one, I figured I would share. :2:

Pic is attached!


On another topic:

I finally found some maglite clips so I could do the maglite mod. (y) Looked at Wally World, Kmart, called Ace hardware, called Harbor Frieght Supply, called Home Depot, and checked at Lowes: all nada. Found a whole mess of them at Galyan's for $4.99 + tax.

Hasta,

-Joe
 
Hey Joe!

At which Galyans store did you find those MagLite clips? I've been keeping my eyes open for them and haven't seen them anywhere.

Oh, by the way, I didn't see any picture of your pinewood derby Av attached.

Thanks,
Gary
 
TX-CO-Z71 said:
Hey Joe!

At which Galyans store did you find those MagLite clips? I've been keeping my eyes open for them and haven't seen them anywhere.

Oh, by the way, I didn't see any picture of your pinewood derby Av attached.

Thanks,
Gary

Gary,

I found the clips at the Galyan's down here in The Springs: "First and Main" shopping center off of Powers Blvd, between North and South Carefree.

I wonder why the attachment didn't work...my preview showed that it was attached. I'll try it again, darn it. Thanks for the heads up, I had logged off after posting.

Regards,

-Joe

edit: fix spelling/grammer :2:
 

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I think that Avy has illegal front window tinting, and as a result is not street legal!

Nice job, I miss the Pinewood Derby days........
 
Hey Joe,
I wish I knew you were looking for Maglite clips. The exchange out at Buckley has a whole bunch of them. It comes as a kit. You get the clips, three different colored lenses, and a rubber guard for the lense. I think they're about 7 or 8 bucks. I haven't bought one yet, but I plan on it.
 
Nice Job...my two boys and I are trying to do the same thing for our derby. Not much of an artist here, so I am not sure I wanted to try it. But now that you have opened the floodgates.......Derby On (y)
 
Great Pinewood Derby Car!

MAG Light Clips--->>>I got mine at this sight:

http://www.all-maglite-4-less.com/

under accessories the hav ethe clips for $3.96 and the
set with the lenses for
$7.95

Mike B :cool:
Tampa, FL
 
mvfd03av - Fer sure: '02 IB and Z-71, just like the one in my driveway. Can't you tell it's a Z-71 from the stock 17" rims? >:D I did actually take a pic of the stock 17" rims, shrink it down, print out 4 of 'em on address labels, cut 'em out, and put them on the toy rims. I also painted a sunroof. I forgot to take a pic of that so maybe tonight I'll post one.

midlifecrisis, SpottyJ, & danlwil - thanks for the compilments! It was fun.

harleymb - thanks for the compliments and link. I didn't want to pay shipping, nor have the wife get the package (what she don't know, won't hurt me), so I wanted to find 'em local.

Eric - I wasn't dying to get the clips, just kept my eyes out until I decided to get serious about finding them. Sounds like Gary could use your help, though!

lt230 - thanks, as well! Good luck to you and your boys in the race. 2 years ago, I did just a basic car of my own. But I spent a lot of time on the paint job: about 20 coats of paint, wet sanding between each one, buffing and clear coating. It was the sweetest looking one there (IMHO) but it got smoked on the track! :p LOL !!!

enkeiavalanche - not fer sale, dude! >:D But I do admire your painted cladding.

Regards,

-Joe
 
I thought about doing that for my sons 2 weeks ago. Just didn't have the time or ability though. Looks good Joe. I will have to try that one next year.
 
OviedoAV said:
I thought about doing that for my sons 2 weeks ago. Just didn't have the time or ability though. Looks good Joe. I will have to try that one next year.

Do it, Dave! :0:

nfhjr said:
Well did you win your event
??? ??? ???

The race is this coming Saturday. I forgot to specify that. But, if I have to predict my chances, I'd put them between slim and none. :2: We've not had good results. The best we've done is get my older son into the Pack finals. Didn't place in the finals so he didn't get to go to the District race...

We did, however, place 3rd as a Pack at the District Soap Box Derby race this year. Our pack had 4 cars, 2 built by me, er, by my Den and my wife's Den. I wanted to build a body for the cars like an Avy (remember that H2 commerical where the kid makes his own H2? LOL). Didn't do it, though. Maybe next race. >:D

Cheers!

-Joe
 
Joe:

Can't remember if it's legal. But, I remember taking the axles/nails and inserting it into a drill chuck and using an ultrafine sandpaper to polish the axle, this made a huge speed difference. I had a school bus that was a rocket.
 
wow that thing is cool!

I finnished runner up out of my group to go the regioinal deals way back when. Very disapointing to lose by half a car length for all that was at stake,
 
SpottyJ - yeah, I used a dremel with a grinding bit to take the molding burrs off of the axles. Hadn't though of polishing them, though. Just might do that! :0:

'Dude - thanks! What was your secret to such a fast car? That would have been tough...but it's a lot better than going out in the first round!


Forgot to take a pic of the sunroof. :2: Maybe tonight. And the checks in the mail. :p

Cheers,

-Joe
 
Last year was my son's first pinewood derby. He didn't know what to make, and at the time I didn't have an Avalanche, but knew I wanted one. He had an Avalanche RC car, so we decided to make an Avalanche since I liked them and we had a good model to go by.

This year the shape of the car was totally up to him - I let him do a lot more of the work himself. I operated the table saw and drill but let him use the dremel some. I'll have to take some pictures when I get home of his 2 cars so I can post them here.

We didn't put as much time obviously into the finish of the car as you did. However, this year my son took first place in his pack. Our secret to speed - max weight, placed as far to the rear of the car as reasonably possible. The track my son's pack uses goes down for its first third, maybe less, then runs level to the finish line. Weight at the rear of the car has farther to drop than weight in the front, so the weight in the rear of the car has more stored energy to turn into speed than in the front.

I assemble golf clubs from components that I purchase from Golfsmith, and because of that, I have an electronic scale that reads ounces to hundredths (compared to the pack's scale that reads to the tenths). After my son pretty much had his car the way he wanted it, I weighed it to see how much weight we needed to add. It weighed about 3 and a third ounces, so we needed to add about 1 and 2/3 ounces to max out at the weight limit. Golfsmith sells most of their club heads these days on the light side, but has what they call "weight ports" where weight can be added to bring the weight of the club head up to where the builder wants it. They sell a variety of lead and tungsten weights weighing from 2.5 to 9 grams. I drilled 9 holes in the back end of his car (you'll be able to see when I post pictures) and let the weights stick out far enough to look like exhaust pipes or maybe rocket motors, as well as to reach out to the max length limit of the car. We re-weighed the car, and it measured 5.01 ounces, with the 1 bouncing back and forth to 0. We had added some lead tape that I also had around for golf club weighting purposes to the car, mostly for decorative purposes, so our plan was to remove some of that if we weighed in too high.

With the added weights to the back of the car, at least 1/3 of the car's total weight rested in the last half inch of the car. This made the front end very light, even though we had set the car up so that the end with the most overhang was in the front. The car did fly off of the track once, which forced a rerun of the race. (If it had flown off twice in a row, it would have been disqualified.)

The pack runner-up was the only other car that really gave my boy's car a good race. The track could run 3 cars at a time, and they would race 3 cars 3 times, rotating them among the track positions. When it came down to the finals, it was just my boy against the runner up, so they planned on running twice, with us swapping lanes after the first race. The judges said my boy lost the first race, even though the crowd, and a picture that my wife took with the cars within a foot of the finish line, indicated that they were wrong. (From the picture, I'd guess that the cars were within less than an inch from each other, so it was a very close call.) My son won the second race, so they went to a tie braker, which my son won by half a car length. All in all, very exciting for my son, his car's engineer (me), mom and sis.
 
Main One,

Excellent story! Thanks for sharing the secret to weight distribution. I moved the weights back on one of my son's cars, making it look kinda like fire coming out of his rocket exhausts. The other car just won't be able to handle switching the weights.

Funny thing is, my dad makes golf clubs, getting most of his stuff thru GolfSmith, as well. He makes enough clubs for people to pay for his yearly men's club membership and green fees.

And I've used all the weights on their cars so my Avy is gonna be light...unless I find something else to weight it down with.

Oh, here's a pic from above, showing the sunroof. ;) But it doesn't have a back window...

Cheers,

-Joe

edit: spelling. I need spell check, dang it! :2:
 

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Here's a pic of my son's Avalanche from last year, and his car he raced this year.

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Here's a side view of his Avalanche. Notice the sail panels.

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Front quarter view of the Avalanche. Notice that we tried to put in the cladding's profile.

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When I was a Kid I used a flat metal plate screwed into the bottom of the Derby car to keep the wieght distributed as flat as possible. I also made it flush by chisseling out the wood a little bit. After using graphite powder to improve wheel spin by reducing friction. This may work for you as well. The competion never stood a chance.
 
FreshPowder said:
When I was a Kid I used a flat metal plate screwed into the bottom of the Derby car to keep the wieght distributed as flat as possible. I also made it flush by chisseling out the wood a little bit. After using graphite powder to improve wheel spin by reducing friction. This may work for you as well. The competion never stood a chance.
Definitely need the graphite powder lubricant! (y)
 
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