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EVERYTHING GM Trailer Wiring Harness hook up wiring etc

redaval said:
looked in the glove box?

The '03s do not come with the brake wiring harness as previously mentioned.

GM Parts has the proper adapter for the '03 as the '02 harness is different and must be modified according to another existing thread on here.

I shamed my dealer in to throwing in the harness which includes a 7 pin to 4 pin adapter.

SJP
 
Ran to my dealer they let me look at the plug and write down the wire codes and placements, was able to wire things up. Running tests to make sure all is right, but so far so good. I'll put info on my website for future reference.
 
I'm confused! I just took delivery of a 2003 AV with the Towing Package. The owners manual states the following:

Your vehicle is equipped with the eight-wire trailer
towing harness. This harness with a seven-pin universal
heavy-duty trailer connector is attached to a bracket
on the hitch platform.

The Center High-Mounted Stoplamp (CHMSL) wire is
tied next to the trailer wiring harness for use with a
trailer.

The eight-wire harness contains the following trailer
circuits:
Yellow: Left Stopnurn Signal
Dark Green: Right Stopnurn Signal
Brown: Taillamps
White: Ground
Light Green: Back-up Lamps
Light Blue: CHMSL
Red: Battery Feed
Dark Blue: Trailer Brake

I assumed the Trailer Brake wire came from a Controller for Electric Brakes. Is this not true?
 
johnsi said:
I'm confused! I just took delivery of a 2003 AV with the Towing Package. The owners manual states the following:
Hello Confused, pleased to meet you! ;) Congratulations on your new truck!

No need for confusion, there are two indpendant brake-related circuits.

The dark blue wire on the 7 pin connector comes from the optional trailer brake controller. This is the signal that controls the application of the trailer's electric brakes, as determined by the controller.

The extra 8th wire, that is not part of the 7 pin connector, is the light blue CHMSL (Center High Mounted Stop Light) wire that is is tied off behind the bumper. This wire is energized only when the center brake light is on, and is used for powering a center brake light on the trailer. While this signal comes on at the same time as the brakes, it is not the signal to control the brakes.

Normally, trailers do not have a center stop light. They use right and left lights that double up as turn signals. These are the yellow and dark green stop/turn wires.

Did that help, or did it add to the confusion?

-- SS
 
Just made the change today. To go from an 02 harness to an 03 harness just swap the lt blue and brown wires. You will have to take out the blue clip and pull the tabs back to get the wires out. Just move the two wires around and youre done. Works great.
 
I was researching this topic a bit yesterday. There is a good dialogue on electric brake controllers and the 2002 / 2003 swap of two wires. GM doesnt give the harness gratas in 2003 vehicles, so make sure you have the right harness for your vehicle. 2002 and 2003 are NOT the same.

Some one should be able to point out the discussion link, but I just searched on electric brake and found it in the search function.

 
I haven't seen the answer to this stupid question.... Which socket does the wiring harness go in? I've got the cable, I know where the socket's are up on the firewall to the left of the brake pedal but there appears to be 3 sockets that the plug COULD fit into. 2 up high and 1 down low. Since it's tucked up high I really can't tell which one it is SUPPOSED to fit into. I hate plugging stuff like this into the wrong one because those plugs are a pain in the ass to get off once they're connected.. I was just hoping to get it right the first time. THANKS!!!
 
jtye01 said:
I haven't seen the answer to this stupid question.... ?Which socket does the wiring harness go in? ?I've got the cable, I know where the socket's are up on the firewall to the left of the brake pedal but there appears to be 3 sockets that the plug COULD fit into. ?2 up high and 1 down low. ?Since it's tucked up high I really can't tell which one it is SUPPOSED to fit into. ?I hate plugging stuff like this into the wrong one because those plugs are a pain in the ass to get off once they're connected.. ?I was just hoping to get it right the first time. ?THANKS!!!

There are keyed slots on the plug it will only fit where it is supposed to go.

Also there is a diagram on inside of cover. Second plug from left on top. Little clip on plug goes up. ;)
 
the plug is a DELPHI>PA66< (under blue clip on side of plug)
terminal A brn,B red,C blue,D lt blu,E empty,F black hope that helps
 
I just received a letter from GM about using electric trailer brakes with a 2003 truck. It is warning about what could happen if you use a trailer brake wiring harness intended for a 2002 or older model.

The jist is:

1) If headlamps or parking lamps are off, the trailer brakes may not apply.

2) If headlamps or parking lamps are on, the trailer brakes may apply BY THEMSELVES!

It goes on to say the correct GM part number for a 2003 harness is 15085418.

I hope this info helps someone. :)

Craig
 
This is very interesting. I always thought that all you need to do was reverse one wire from the 2002 wiring harness and it would work on the 2003. I wonder if this is what GM is takking about. We know the wiring for the 2002 Mr SS has the diagrams. Does anyone have the diagrams or CD for the 2003 that can see what the difference is between the 2002 and 2003 wiring harness. I would love to find out. this would be great information to share.

SS please if you have a chance, please post the wiring dirgram for the 2002 wiring harness to the barke controller. Thanks
 
Another of the many things you get screwed out of on the 03. The 02 came with the cable and now you have to pay for it :8:
 
My mechanic at GM showed me this as well, and laughed it off. He told me the wire switch will work just as well as the new part. Great info though for anyone who hasn't run across this yet. That is what makes this forum so great. Everyone is providing, gathering, and sharing info for us to use.

Thanks again for the heads up.

Wiki
 
Boy, I'm glad I ran across this post.

When I picked up my 03, and noticed the harness wasn't in the truck, my salesman just opened an 02 - got the harness - and gave it to me. I was planning on installing this soon!

Wonder why GM hasn't sent me a notice??? ???

Thanks for the info.

Bear
 
I just got the same letter this week.
I believe they are referring to the harness if used as is. I have heard of people making the wiring change & using the 02 harness without a problem. I don't think GM would say yes it is OK to rewire the 02 harness.
I still think it stinks you pay for an expensive truck with a trailer towing package, & they don't include the harness. I bought mine (03 harness) from R-Jays for less than $10 when I bought my Prodigy brake controller. Made install super easy.
I am FINALLY going to get in some camping next weekend, since local baseball season is almost over. ;D
Traz
 
Could you imagine cruising down the highway at 60, it starts to get dark outside so your auto headlights come on and lock up your trailer brakes while passing a bus load of children....
 
Does anyone know for sure which two wires need to be reversed to make the 02 harness work for an 03? Thanks...
 
My recommendation is to get the correct harness. That way, if anything should go wrong, you have some legal recourse.

Several members have mentioned that you can modify a 2002 harness to work properly in a 2003. But if you do that, you have modified the manuafacturer's equipment, and you assume the liability if there is a problem. In this case GM will have a very good argument to absolve themselves as responsible: since you modified their wiring, how can they assume responsability for something over which they have no control? Besides, they sent you a letter saying it won't work!

Now that being said, if you take it upon yourself to modify the wiring harness, and you are confident that you are doing the right things, and it is the equivalent item after modification, and you are not worried about being able to sue someone if something happens, then you may very well go ahead and do it yourself. There are plenty of people who modify their trucks in pretty drastic ways. This is relatively minor in comparison.

You have to decide on your own if this is something you want to do, and accept responsability for it.

Others have posted on what wires to swap to get this to work. A search should reveal this. One instance is here: Installing Trailer Brake Controller. So that we can understand what is going on, here are the pinouts for that connector on a 2002:

Relay Block - Body - C5

Pin | Color | Circuit # | Function
A|LT BLU|1620|Trailer CHMSL Supply Voltage
B|RED|142|Battery Positive Voltage
C|DK BLU|47|Trailer Auxiliary Supply Voltage
D|BRN|2409|Interior Park Lamps Supply Voltage
E|---|---|Not Used
F|BLK|1850|Ground

Translation:
  • A is the signal to the controller that says the brakes are on.
  • B is the supply voltage for the controller
  • C is the signal from the controller to the trailer's brakes
  • D is for controller control panel illumination
  • F is ground
The positions of the pins are as follows, looking into the end of the plug with the wires going away from you, and the locking tab on top:
Code:
     | Latch |
     +---+---+
    | D | C |
     +---+---+
    | E | B |
     +---+---+
    | F | A |
    +---+---+

I am a little confused by the post I linked to above. It states that you have to move the red wire from one corner to another. According to this chart, the red wire is in one of the center positions not a corner. I have compared this chart and diagram against my 2002 harness, and it matches. This information is correct to the best of my knowledge.

If someone has this information for a 2003, please post it, then we can compare.

Important note: This information is only for informational purposes, so that we can understand what is going on, and the reasons for this letter from GM. Please do not take this as a recommendation to perform any modifications. As pointed out by CraigF in the following post, this is a critical saftey system. I will accept no liability for the use/misuse of this information. Any use of this information is strictly at your own risk.

-- SS
 
I'm not one for a lot of mods, but to each his own....

This mod, however, involves safety of the vehicle, driver, passengers, and those around you. You may make this mod to use the 2002 harness, but what happens when you sell your truck? The next own knows it's a 2003, and may have to buy a new harness so they get the GM part for that year. Now they have a safety issue on their hands without even knowing it.

How much are these harnesses? $20? Seems to be the right way to go for me...

Craig
 
CraigF said:
This mod, however, involves safety of the vehicle, driver, passengers, and those around you. You may make this mod to use the 2002 harness, but what happens when you sell your truck? The next own knows it's a 2003, and may have to buy a new harness so they get the GM part for that year. Now they have a safety issue on their hands without even knowing it.

How much are these harnesses? $20? Seems to be the right way to go for me...
I fully agree with you (no surprise if you read the beginning of my prior post.)

But just to be clear, the mod being discussed is to modify the 2002 trailer brake harness (the plug with wires that attaches to the controller, properly called a "Z82 Glove Box Jumper" according to the tag on the harness) to make it compatible with a 2003 truck. No modifications are being contemplated to the truck's wiring. That next owner could still buy a 2003 style harness and it would work just fine. I would absolutely not recommend modifying the truck's wiring to match what is essentially a disposable connector/harness. :eek:

There are those who will always make a modification... either because they can, or they want to save a few dollars. They will have to take responsability for those changes, and no matter what anyone says, they will go ahead and do it anyway. For all the others, I say just buy the correct harness and be done with it. My information above is for informational purposes, and not a recommendation that anyone make these modifications.

GM is covering their butts by putting out this letter, so that they can control their liability. I am not about to accept that liability by recommending a modification.

-- SS
 
I get ya, SS. I thought the wiring mod was changing the TRUCK side...not the harness side. I think the heat must have gotten to me today. :)

Thanks for clarifying.

Craig
 
Hey folks hang on one minute!!!!

I guess I'm a dumbsh_t on this problem. I got the letter but what does it really mean? If I bought a boat tommorrow or bought a trailer for my kids ATV's can I just plug it into my '03 and go????

Does this letter mean if I buy a trailer that is older than an 03' do I have to get the adapter?

What is the bottom line here!
Thanks,
Dino
 
The bottom line Dino is if you get a trailer that requires electric brakes, regardless of what year the trailer is, you need the correct cable to connect the electric brake controller, that you need to get, to your truck. If you have a small ATV trailer that does not have brakes you do not need to do anything. The trailer lights hook up to your plug in the back and off you go.

Mike
 
Thanks Mike!
Now its pretty clear. I will probably get an ATV trailer that has electric brakes so I better get to GM for the harness.

Thanks for the help,
Dino
 
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